Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only Talk about Dodge/Cummins aftermarket products for second generation trucks here. Can include high-performance mods, or general accessories.

Help with the pyro probe

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 7, 2005 | 10:00 PM
  #1  
blackdiesel's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 4,173
Likes: 0
From: Omaha, AR
Question Help with the pyro probe

ok ive got my probe to my egt guage a few inches down from the back of my turbo. What is the temp difference in pre and post turbo? Whats acceptable and whats not? thanks
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2005 | 10:05 PM
  #2  
Jambbii's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 809
Likes: 0
From: Gilbert, Az
I think there is a 300 degree dif between pre and post turbo. Anything over 1350 for a an extended period of time is bad. I occasionally peg my 1600 degree pyro
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2005 | 11:44 PM
  #3  
Dr. Evil's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,129
Likes: 0
From: The Great White North
Re: Help with the pyro probe

Originally posted by blackdiesel02
What is the temp difference in pre and post turbo?
If you put it post turbo you are pretty much guessing at the exhaust temps. Some will disagree, but most guys go pre-turbo
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2005 | 11:47 PM
  #4  
GlennRMK's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,085
Likes: 0
From: Bozeman, MT
Pre Turbo is the only way to go IMO
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 01:00 AM
  #5  
Bushy's Avatar
Patron Saint of 1st gens
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,107
Likes: 0
From: British Columbia, Canada
Yup...pre-turbo is the only way.....unless you want to be doing math while your driving/racing.

You can use approx. 10*F for every pound of boost (added to your pryo reading) ...once you reach approx 25'ish PSI you'll need to up the ratio to about 11-12*F per pound, the higher the boost numbers the more that value goes ascque....that's how it worked out on my first gen with the probe about 2 1/2" downstream from the turo outlet when compared to 1 1/2" prior to turbo flange in the manifold.

pb...
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 07:33 AM
  #6  
HOHN's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 6,564
Likes: 6
From: Cummins Technical Center, IN
Originally posted by Jambbii
I think there is a 300 degree dif between pre and post turbo. Anything over 1350 for a an extended period of time is bad. I occasionally peg my 1600 degree pyro

I'ver personally seen over 550° difference between pre and post during WOT transients.

If you are using a pryo to gauge safe EGTs for seriously overfueled engine, PRE is your ONLY option.

Post turbo is only good for large, non-wg turbos that don't see high transients.

For example, a 160hp 1st gen with a 21 housing is fine with a post-turbo pyro probe.

A 400hp 2nd gen with a 12 housing NEEDS a pre-turbo probe.

Can everyone see the difference??
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 07:15 PM
  #7  
phox_mulder's Avatar
Administrator
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 6,522
Likes: 4
From: Sandy, Utah
Post turbo can vary by as little as 300 degrees at idle, to over 550 degrees at WOT.

As long as you are sure you can always do the math.
Preturbo is a much better option, no math required.


phox
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2005 | 09:46 PM
  #8  
blackdiesel's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 4,173
Likes: 0
From: Omaha, AR
good gosh, i didtn think that there was that much difference. ah well, i aint in that much trouble. Thanks guys
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 08:46 AM
  #9  
Saxet Nomad's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 203
Likes: 0
From: Guy, TX
Yeah, I put a pipe plug in my Post Turbo tap and moved the probe to the manifold...I saw more than 300 deg difference...
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2005 | 05:34 PM
  #10  
ramcummins's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 358
Likes: 0
From: Paragonah, UT
I will second Saxet
Put a plug in and relocate to pre.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2005 | 06:07 PM
  #11  
blackdiesel's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 4,173
Likes: 0
From: Omaha, AR
nah ill just stick with my post and do a little math.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jawsman@sbcglob
3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only)
6
Jun 4, 2007 10:27 PM
tomd
General Diesel Discussion
0
Dec 12, 2006 10:56 PM
belfert
3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only)
5
Sep 6, 2004 06:12 AM
Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only
2
Sep 20, 2003 10:07 PM
TinJim
3rd Generation Ram - Non Drivetrain - All Years
10
Apr 28, 2003 09:50 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:31 AM.