Erska

Hiya!

I was considering to get a kelderman 8" air ride lift kit but I think I'll buy some power upgrades instead of that smooth ride.
And besides, I never got any accurate information that how much that Kelderman kit costs!

I currently have TST PM3 stacked with hypertech power programmer 3, K&N Air filter system and magnaflow 4" exhaust system, I'm getting 6" Bull-Hauler stacks soon so about half of the magnaflow system is getting removed, I'll remove the muffler too.

And for drivetrain upgrades I have fully built DTT Transmission with billet input shaft, but not output. I said to DTT guys that I'm going for twins and over 600hp so I think my tranny does just fine.

Anyway, I dynoed 344hp/916lb-ft from the engine and about 285/870lb-ft from the wheels(17" steel wheels with 37x12.5 meats on, one wheel&tire weights 180 pounds).

So, I want some serious power now. At first I was thinking VGT chargers, or Holset VE500 turbos but I guess the electronics are too hard to build and get it work.

So now I was thinking Aurora Multistage turbo, but that is based on Aurora 4000 and not for 5000 so I'm not sure that do I want that.

I'm thinking twins, but which twins? I want to drive my truck with my tst off as well. The diesel costs over 7.5 usd per gallon in here and it's expected to rise for 9 bucks per gallon in this summer.

And for the injectors, I was thinking Mach 4's or Mach 4.5's . How much power I can get with those? Or how does even bigger than Mach 4.5 injectors work on daily driver with boxes off and on? How about emission tests? For that I was thinking Smarty programmer.
And oh well, then there is allways the head studs and headgaskets... What should I do?

I want at least 500hp from the wheels. But 600hp would be much more awesome.

What kind of mileage I would expect with 500-600hp? I'm getting 13-15mpg now.

What's the best turbo, injector and programmer setup for my hunger of power?

Oh, and if I can get 500-600hp from the wheels, what kind of numbers I should expect from a 8000 pound dually? Like in 1/4 mile and 0-60 MPH(not ft) times?

And please do not suggest propane, water or nitrous injections at all. Those are completly illegal in here, and I want to do it on diesel only.

PS: Remember that I do not live in USA so I can't ask these things for fellow Cummins Ram owners... + I have to wait couple of months to get these things in here, pay shippings and 32% of tax in top of that.

Thanks!

Mountaineer

I thought you guys were taxed on the output of hp on your vehicle ?
If so , the Smarty would be the bomb because you could put it on the half power setting if need be and also for emission tests, and then load # 9 for having fun

Erska

Yeah, that's the reason why I am considering smarty.

Well, basicly we were taxed like you said, but in the beginning of 2008 new cars are taxed based on emissions.
You can read more in the topic I made:
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...d.php?t=178488

But, my truck is registered as a commercial truck in here,(like everything with a total weight over 3500kg) the max speed is 80km/h(52mph?) but because my truck is older than 2001 I don't need a speedlimiter for that, so how cares about that 80km/h law.

And because it is a truck, I do not have to pay car tax at all, just the Finlands basic 22% tax which is taxed in everything you buy, except in books it's 8% and food it's 17%.

And if you buy something outside of the European Union you have to pay a custom tax which is 10%. So 22+10= 32%.

Jturs

Wow i thought our taxes were bad.

Emoneysrt-6

I'm thinking twins, but which twins? I want to drive my truck with my tst off as well. The diesel costs over 7.5 usd per gallon in here and it's expected to rise for 9 bucks per gallon in this summer.

well i will officially stop crying about diesel costs 9.00$ a gallon that sucks!!!!!!

haloman

Take off the Hypertech, get a smarty for the half power setting. Some mach 4s or higher and a 35/s400 combo will get you over your 500 mark easily. There are guys driving mach 6's daily too.

Erska

Yes, I'll take the hypertech off as soon as I get the smarty.

But can someone tell me more about the twins, injector and head stud combos?

And the mileage question is pretty big to me.

Mike D

I've dyno'd 575hp with my combo and ran a 12.55 on fuel. My mileage is around 15-18mph depending on how I drive.

Erska

I guess nobody really wants to give me proposals for the complete setup.

So I'm thinking PDR twins, this one to be more specific:
http://www.pdrdiesel.com/products/Co...s-685-162.html

Injectors is going to be mach 4 or 4.5's unless someone really can change my mind for the 5's or 6's.

Smarty, ARP 12mm studs and new head gasket + o-ringing the head.

Why that PDR kit is over a grand cheaper than lets say BD's or ATS twins? What are the real causes ?

Is 600rwhp possible with mach 4's or mach 4'5 with fuel only?

Mike D

I don't think you'll get 600rwhp with Mach 4's, the most I've seen is around 540 average. I've had both Mach 4's and 6's, I prefer the 6's and they aren't smokey on the street.

I've never done it, but people have retorqued their stock head bolts to as much as 150 ft. lbs. The trick is to torque the bolts on a cold engine 5 lbs at a time and let the bolt cool between torques.

If you want to do o-rings and studs, you can order studs and a modified marine 12v gasket to fit a 24 valve. You'll need to know the proper groove depth for the o-ring. You can contact timinva on this board for more information. He can also supply the F1 Mach injectors.

Erska

Ok!

Thank you Mike D for your helpful replys.

I'll go for mach 6 and pdr cobra twins stage 3.

I was thinking of upgrading my tst pm3 with this adjustable remote:
http://www.tstproducts.com/index.asp...PROD&ProdID=39

But my biggest concern is, does this kit also provide correct sensors to me? I'm pretty this remote does not like another brand sensors.

ps: Is there a website for the modified marine head gaskets+ o-rings?

Mike D

You might want to send TST and email to verify what comes with the remote. I have the remote without any readouts.

PM DTR member timinva on this board for o-rings, modified 12v gasket and injectors, or you can get his email information off his website is www.trediesel.com

Erska

I'm thinking of selling my tst pm3 and getting quadzilla adrenaline with pulse monitor and all needed sensors. I like the idea of quadzilla.

Mike D, where did you got your mach 4.5's and what are your thoughts of those?

Mountaineer

Hey Erska, Do what you want bud, but the bigger twins aren't going to mix real well with those 37's on the street. Save yourself alot of money and throw a S400 in under that 35 and you will love it. After that, if your still wanting to sacrifice some more drive-ability, then go with a bigger secondary.

Erska

I don't want to sacrifice my driveability. That's why I'm thinking of twins, big single wont light up quickly at all.

I don't want to do twins piping on my own, I would like to get a complete setup, but does pdr provide the twin kit for me with s400 and with no secondary turbo?

I was thinking to change my hx 35's exhaust housing to 14cm and use it as my secondary turbo.

I'd like to have mach 6's too but I heard some things of those and how they make your every day driving a little more difficult so I'll just pass those.

Do you guys have any clue fo what kind of times I could get with 550-600rwhp with my dually on the 1/4 mile or 0-60mph times?

Sounds pretty stupid to ask these things, but that's the main reason why I want more power...