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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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Engine oil cooler

Just sitting here brainstorming.......again

I know for gas motors, they have all kinds of oil filter adapters and such to allow you to run a remote engine oil cooler.

Is there something available for our trucks? A sandwich type for between the oil filter/block deal? Are there accessible ports or areas that can be tapped into on the block somewhere? Is there actually a cooler available from Cummins themselves?

Just curious.........and thinking to hard

Jeff
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 02:17 AM
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I think if you really wanted to you could run one if you tap into the port above the oil filter. I am pretty sure 24 valves have a place besides the turbo oil return line that you could tap it in to for the drain. I dont think that cummins really need oil coolers besides the factory one behind the oil filter.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 03:40 AM
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Is this what you were thinking about? I think Rapid Cool also makes an adapter plate, you would just need the thread size and pitch.
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http://www.engineperformancecenter.c...ine_cooler.asp
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jambbii
I think if you really wanted to you could run one if you tap into the port above the oil filter. I am pretty sure 24 valves have a place besides the turbo oil return line that you could tap it in to for the drain. I dont think that cummins really need oil coolers besides the factory one behind the oil filter.
Exactly. The factory oil cooler does a good job of transferring heat to the cooling system. Oil temps generally only run about 20º hotter than coolant temps.

If you STILL want to add aux oil cooling, you can tap the 1/8" NPT port on top of the oil filter head. Not worth it, imo.

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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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I think I have to agree with Hohn that tapping into the top of the filter housing is not worth it. There won't be enough flow to justify the work involved to plumb it.

The adapter style that Jim Lane found is what I was looking for. You can get the flow you need to make it worth the effort plus most of them a thermally controlled. At least all the gasser ones I've played with were. They open when they have to kind of thing.

I'm just thinking out loud on this subject but having an engine oil cooler will not hurt, especially in the mountains. Like Hohn mentioned, the factory cooler just heats up the coolant like a tranny cooler in the rad tank.

I'm going to look a little harder at the factory one ans see if it can't be "removed" and replaced with a larger more efficient one in the airstream up front? I guess the easiest way is to just run a remote filter setup and plumb the cooler in that way.

Like I said, thinking out loud....

Jeff
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 03:53 AM
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How about on thr turbo oil return to scrub off heat before the crankcase?
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyborrg
How about on thr turbo oil return to scrub off heat before the crankcase?
Good idea but since the return is a drain don't know if the restriction of the cooler would cause any problems with the bearings.
Has anyone ever actually measured the temperature of the oil inlet vs. outlet to see how much heat the oil carries off?
It would be interesting to know.
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Homestead
I think I have to agree with Hohn that tapping into the top of the filter housing is not worth it. There won't be enough flow to justify the work involved to plumb it.

The adapter style that Jim Lane found is what I was looking for. You can get the flow you need to make it worth the effort plus most of them a thermally controlled. At least all the gasser ones I've played with were. They open when they have to kind of thing.

I'm just thinking out loud on this subject but having an engine oil cooler will not hurt, especially in the mountains. Like Hohn mentioned, the factory cooler just heats up the coolant like a tranny cooler in the rad tank.

I'm going to look a little harder at the factory one ans see if it can't be "removed" and replaced with a larger more efficient one in the airstream up front? I guess the easiest way is to just run a remote filter setup and plumb the cooler in that way.

Like I said, thinking out loud....

Jeff
Before I got my Dodge I had a 82 Chevy 6.2 diesel and it had an engine oil cooler from the factory, it had an adapter under the spin-on filter that was plumbed with hard lines to the cooler inside the radiator.
They also had aftermarket coolers that mounted under the floorboard.

Be sure to use GOOD hydraulic lines for the oil, if one burst it would empty your crankcase before you knew what was happening.
For a cooler, check into a chill plate off a reefer trailer. I have used them once for a oil cooler. Just a thought.
Jim
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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 12:20 AM
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the oil cooler on the DC Cummins engine is a smaller cooler then the one's used on the higher horsepower midrange trucks , just go to Cummins and order the thicker oil cooler and slap it on the engine. you will have plenty oil cooling capacity. it is very easy to switch out the cooler,
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