Toyota Problems
Wifey's 1995 Landcruiser.
80,000 miles with routine mantenence.
Now the complete (almost) exhaust need to be changed.
The rear pipe is still good........everything from the Mainfold to the Rear pipe is leaking. including two, count 'em TWO catalytic converters.......
Toyota price $3400 in parts, $600 labor.
And folks whine about DODGE Dealers Service and Parts Counters
Yup you read that right.....4 GRAND for the exhaust on a 15 year old truck.
Co-Worker knows the parts manager at another Toyota dealer.
My price, $2100 for parts.
I told Wifey I'll make arragements to get paid for the $600 for my labor......
She told me she'd start charging me $50 a meal to eat at Cafe' De Wifey.
Soooooo, long story short, the installation will be free.
Major trouble I see on her truck is the crappy steel they use on the nuts and bolts.
They don't just rust, They DISOLVE.
The front O2 sensor fell out when both hold down nuts evaporated.
My '99 CTD, 140,000 miles on the original exhaust.
80,000 miles with routine mantenence.
Now the complete (almost) exhaust need to be changed.
The rear pipe is still good........everything from the Mainfold to the Rear pipe is leaking. including two, count 'em TWO catalytic converters.......
Toyota price $3400 in parts, $600 labor.
And folks whine about DODGE Dealers Service and Parts Counters
Yup you read that right.....4 GRAND for the exhaust on a 15 year old truck.
Co-Worker knows the parts manager at another Toyota dealer.
My price, $2100 for parts.
I told Wifey I'll make arragements to get paid for the $600 for my labor......

She told me she'd start charging me $50 a meal to eat at Cafe' De Wifey.

Soooooo, long story short, the installation will be free.

Major trouble I see on her truck is the crappy steel they use on the nuts and bolts.
They don't just rust, They DISOLVE.
The front O2 sensor fell out when both hold down nuts evaporated.
My '99 CTD, 140,000 miles on the original exhaust.
You shouldn't be surprised with costly repairs-go look into a porches, Audi, Landrover ect. They are all expensive as hell to fix.
So, toyota tried to sweep it under the carpet....hmm, i can't imagine why. A flaw with a relativity important part of the car. Ford, dodge or gm would NEVER try to do that. I have never heard of a domestic vehicle causing deaths due to manufacturers problems. They are saints & can do no wrong....HA
Shutting down production is a huge decision that Toyota had to make. I am a proud owner of a yota, and am proud of this decision. The big 3 would continue to make a deathtrap if they knew they could make a buck at it.
Shutting down production is a huge decision that Toyota had to make. I am a proud owner of a yota, and am proud of this decision. The big 3 would continue to make a deathtrap if they knew they could make a buck at it.
So, toyota tried to sweep it under the carpet....hmm, i can't imagine why. A flaw with a relativity important part of the car. Ford, dodge or gm would NEVER try to do that. I have never heard of a domestic vehicle causing deaths due to manufacturers problems. They are saints & can do no wrong....HA
Shutting down production is a huge decision that Toyota had to make. I am a proud owner of a yota, and am proud of this decision. The big 3 would continue to make a deathtrap if they knew they could make a buck at it.
Shutting down production is a huge decision that Toyota had to make. I am a proud owner of a yota, and am proud of this decision. The big 3 would continue to make a deathtrap if they knew they could make a buck at it.
You mean trying to blame the floormats is any different than any other company?? The stepped up in a big way because they got caught trying to hide the real problem, just like the rest.
I would like to hope that they thought that the floormats were the issue-and since then, were proven wrong.
the next action was to recall all these vehicles-and stop building them.
Not at all.......Heck Wifey paid close to 55 grand for it new.
But I didn't expect the stock replacement exhaust to cost more most of the cars that I've owned.
I'm merely pointing out that Dodge doesn't have a Monopoly on High Prices at the parts counter.
I caught an artilcle today. If Yota would have used throttle by wire like Nissan, Infinity, BMW, Mercedes, and others use, applying the brake would have returned the car to idle...
It's a good decision to make to shutdown manufacturing, but it's only for couple a weeks, they can afford to do that as many cars they sell a year. just finished watching a deal about it on NBC I think. I doubt this problem will decrese the sales #'rs. I would get a yota over a chevy or ford. I think I can handle a sticky throttle! I was in a 86 chevy once that had a 350 with 400 trans the thing stuck at full throttle and I managed to stop the stupid thing in the middle of town....much less a little car or truck.
It's a good decision to make to shutdown manufacturing, but it's only for couple a weeks, they can afford to do that as many cars they sell a year. just finished watching a deal about it on NBC I think. I doubt this problem will decrese the sales #'rs. I would get a yota over a chevy or ford. I think I can handle a sticky throttle! I was in a 86 chevy once that had a 350 with 400 trans the thing stuck at full throttle and I managed to stop the stupid thing in the middle of town....much less a little car or truck.
Wifey's 1995 Landcruiser.
80,000 miles with routine mantenence.
Now the complete (almost) exhaust need to be changed.
The rear pipe is still good........everything from the Mainfold to the Rear pipe is leaking. including two, count 'em TWO catalytic converters.......
Toyota price $3400 in parts, $600 labor.
And folks whine about DODGE Dealers Service and Parts Counters
Yup you read that right.....4 GRAND for the exhaust on a 15 year old truck.
Co-Worker knows the parts manager at another Toyota dealer.
My price, $2100 for parts.
I told Wifey I'll make arragements to get paid for the $600 for my labor......
She told me she'd start charging me $50 a meal to eat at Cafe' De Wifey.
Soooooo, long story short, the installation will be free.
Major trouble I see on her truck is the crappy steel they use on the nuts and bolts.
They don't just rust, They DISOLVE.
The front O2 sensor fell out when both hold down nuts evaporated.
My '99 CTD, 140,000 miles on the original exhaust.
80,000 miles with routine mantenence.
Now the complete (almost) exhaust need to be changed.
The rear pipe is still good........everything from the Mainfold to the Rear pipe is leaking. including two, count 'em TWO catalytic converters.......
Toyota price $3400 in parts, $600 labor.
And folks whine about DODGE Dealers Service and Parts Counters
Yup you read that right.....4 GRAND for the exhaust on a 15 year old truck.
Co-Worker knows the parts manager at another Toyota dealer.
My price, $2100 for parts.
I told Wifey I'll make arragements to get paid for the $600 for my labor......

She told me she'd start charging me $50 a meal to eat at Cafe' De Wifey.

Soooooo, long story short, the installation will be free.

Major trouble I see on her truck is the crappy steel they use on the nuts and bolts.
They don't just rust, They DISOLVE.
The front O2 sensor fell out when both hold down nuts evaporated.
My '99 CTD, 140,000 miles on the original exhaust.
I'm sorry for keeping this going but I really don't understand this whole issue with Toyota. People are on tv crying that they can never drive their car again, having them towed, taking them back, and making them sound like the first auto manufacture that has ever had a problem with a product. I don't get it. I was listening to a story on the radio about lawsuits, and the like.
Is this the first auto company that hasn't fixed their stuff. I drive a great truck, they have many troubles. Injector pumps, steering, transmission, engine blocks, etc, etc. Gm has had issues, Ford, and so on. Toyota has done something that I think has never happened before. They stopped production and haulted sales till this is fixed. I didn't get any recalls on my inj pump, track bar, transmission, etc. We all know that they were a flop and we kept buying and supporting them. I think this is alot like the H1N1 scare, the media has grabbed this and are banging it to death. If we wanted to get our trucks fixed we should have let them stop on the interstate when the vp-44 quit and caused a massive traffic problem.Then called CNN to carry this to the people and get everybody haired up. We instead have a little common since and pulled to the side out of harms way and that was that. I have never driven a vehicle yet, big or small that the brakes couldn't drag to a stop, or at least till you hit the key.
Toyota has a great reputation for quality and everybody else only wishes they could build as good. Why is it they always compare to Toyota, that there tells you they envy them.
For godsake people grow up and not sue for your own stupidity, makes me think about McDonald's and the hot coffee. Whoever awarded that claim must be from another planet, not mine.
They are going to fix the problem, not like some who ignor them and hope they go away. Again I guess I am missing something and I apologize if I don't get it but this seems blown way out of reality to me.
Confused and annoyed
Is this the first auto company that hasn't fixed their stuff. I drive a great truck, they have many troubles. Injector pumps, steering, transmission, engine blocks, etc, etc. Gm has had issues, Ford, and so on. Toyota has done something that I think has never happened before. They stopped production and haulted sales till this is fixed. I didn't get any recalls on my inj pump, track bar, transmission, etc. We all know that they were a flop and we kept buying and supporting them. I think this is alot like the H1N1 scare, the media has grabbed this and are banging it to death. If we wanted to get our trucks fixed we should have let them stop on the interstate when the vp-44 quit and caused a massive traffic problem.Then called CNN to carry this to the people and get everybody haired up. We instead have a little common since and pulled to the side out of harms way and that was that. I have never driven a vehicle yet, big or small that the brakes couldn't drag to a stop, or at least till you hit the key.
Toyota has a great reputation for quality and everybody else only wishes they could build as good. Why is it they always compare to Toyota, that there tells you they envy them.
For godsake people grow up and not sue for your own stupidity, makes me think about McDonald's and the hot coffee. Whoever awarded that claim must be from another planet, not mine.
They are going to fix the problem, not like some who ignor them and hope they go away. Again I guess I am missing something and I apologize if I don't get it but this seems blown way out of reality to me.
Confused and annoyed
It's not malicious, just has to do with 'saving face'.
RJ
I thought the Cats were warranted for 100K by law so shouldn't those be covered? As for the rest of it, I can't imagine that the local muffler shop can't do it for a whole lot less unless you specifically want factory parts, in which case, yes, they will be expensive. To each their own but to me, going to the dealer for an exhaust system is like buying filters at the dealer; I can get the same or better for less elsewhere. JMHO
Wifey's truck, wifey's decision....... keep her Toyota all Toyota.
She bought it originally, she's paying for the parts.
Cats, like all other emmissions equipment are warranteed via EPA regs for 100,000 miles OR 5 years, whichever comes first.
I have to agree - why are these OWNERS so utterly paranoid????!
Have they forgotten what they were taught in Driver's ED? Or did they even have to take Driver's ED?
Moreover, if they EXPECT to NEVER have a problem,,,and our society seems to be so spoiled today that we EXPECT this - maybe it's a wake up call that we're still human, and yes, people can indeed make a mistake.
Or maybe they just need to grow up a bit.
Enough rant...
Have they forgotten what they were taught in Driver's ED? Or did they even have to take Driver's ED?
Moreover, if they EXPECT to NEVER have a problem,,,and our society seems to be so spoiled today that we EXPECT this - maybe it's a wake up call that we're still human, and yes, people can indeed make a mistake.
Or maybe they just need to grow up a bit.
Enough rant...
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Toyota is notorious for the flexible pipe connection burning out on the exhaust and it being a dealer only item and extremely expensive for all it is. That's on all models.


