Homecoming for the "Old Lady"
08-27-2004, 11:10 AM
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Homecoming for the "Old Lady"
This Sunday, we will be having the homecoming celebration for the USS Razorback SS-394. The clean up has been going well and for a 61 year old she really looks good. Still got lots of work to do to get her "just right", but we will get there.
Come visit if you can.
Come visit if you can.
08-27-2004, 11:17 AM
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A bit of history on her.
She is the last surviving sub that was in Tokyo Bay when the Japanese surrendered in 1945. She remained on active duty in the US Navy until 1970 and was turned over to Turkey. She was renamed the Murat Reis and served in their navy until 2002.
Here she is at Subase North Little Rock.
She is the last surviving sub that was in Tokyo Bay when the Japanese surrendered in 1945. She remained on active duty in the US Navy until 1970 and was turned over to Turkey. She was renamed the Murat Reis and served in their navy until 2002.
Here she is at Subase North Little Rock.
08-27-2004, 11:21 AM
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Would really like to tour her. I got to crawl around in the sub moored in Mobile Bay when I lived down that way. I can not even begin to imagine what it was like for the troops working and living in such a small space.
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08-27-2004, 06:39 PM
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I got to go below deck on a couple of old pig boats ( diesel subs) when I was going thru sub school in New London back in the early 70's. Man I'm sure glad I was on a Boomer (fleet balistic missle sub) alot more room & air conditioned.
There were alot of Turks going to sub school when I was there because they were getting all of our decomissioned diesel subs.
There were alot of Turks going to sub school when I was there because they were getting all of our decomissioned diesel subs.
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08-30-2004, 08:46 AM
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sidwinder,
It was a long drawn out process to get her. We were fortunate NOT to have to go thru all the process since the boat belonged to the Turks. Still had a bunch of dealing with the state department. A non profit organization was set up and we started making contacts. We got her for $1 and donations paid for the towing.
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Yes, it is in North Little Rock, Arkansas. Do a search for Arkansas Inland Maritime Museum.
Yesterday, I had the priviledge of being one of 150 to ride the boat from her upkeep area to where she is to be displayed. We has somewhere around 125 boat escorting us. I was looking out on the deck at around 2000 years of total submarine experience spanning 70 years. Some of the guys spent their entire sub career on her in WW2. There were former commanders, both American and Turkish, and personnel that this will be their last ride. Emotions were beyond discription. Captain Talbert made the comment that those who rode the boats could be compared to women and childbirth. You could go into great detail about the processes and relate those to others. However, the only way to really know the intimate parts is to experience it. There is this bond that develops between a machine and the men that run her. It a closeness, not unlike between siblings, that even tho you are each different personalities, you are very much identical in your focus. It's like the "old man" said, you have to experience it to know it. I'm not sure if calling it a brotherhood would come close. It's something different.
I listened to men talk about depth charging they endured, atomic bomb tests, recovering from a dive that took them to double their test depth. They talked about places, people, things, and experiences from WW2, Korea, Vietnam, the Cold War, and the present. I was glad to be a part of it all.
Wasn't many dry eyes when she docked. There were 8-10,000 people on shore cheering when we pulled in. It felt good.
Boat sailors are different. It's impossible to explain how, just different. You have to experience it to know.
As soon as I get the pics, I'll post them.
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It was a long drawn out process to get her. We were fortunate NOT to have to go thru all the process since the boat belonged to the Turks. Still had a bunch of dealing with the state department. A non profit organization was set up and we started making contacts. We got her for $1 and donations paid for the towing.
Mostwanted,
Yes, it is in North Little Rock, Arkansas. Do a search for Arkansas Inland Maritime Museum.
Yesterday, I had the priviledge of being one of 150 to ride the boat from her upkeep area to where she is to be displayed. We has somewhere around 125 boat escorting us. I was looking out on the deck at around 2000 years of total submarine experience spanning 70 years. Some of the guys spent their entire sub career on her in WW2. There were former commanders, both American and Turkish, and personnel that this will be their last ride. Emotions were beyond discription. Captain Talbert made the comment that those who rode the boats could be compared to women and childbirth. You could go into great detail about the processes and relate those to others. However, the only way to really know the intimate parts is to experience it. There is this bond that develops between a machine and the men that run her. It a closeness, not unlike between siblings, that even tho you are each different personalities, you are very much identical in your focus. It's like the "old man" said, you have to experience it to know it. I'm not sure if calling it a brotherhood would come close. It's something different.
I listened to men talk about depth charging they endured, atomic bomb tests, recovering from a dive that took them to double their test depth. They talked about places, people, things, and experiences from WW2, Korea, Vietnam, the Cold War, and the present. I was glad to be a part of it all.
Wasn't many dry eyes when she docked. There were 8-10,000 people on shore cheering when we pulled in. It felt good.
Boat sailors are different. It's impossible to explain how, just different. You have to experience it to know.
As soon as I get the pics, I'll post them.
grinninglikeamuleeatingsawbriersShortround out
08-31-2004, 09:05 PM
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My dad was on one the Razorback's sister ships (USS Tiru), talking about harrowing experiences one day he spoke of how the main induction valve for the ballast tanks got stuck open on the old girl. The ballast tanks allow you to sink or rise on a sub, the main induction valve is what allows water in. It is 3 FEET ACROSS and stuck open on them.
09-01-2004, 06:19 AM
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The main induction valve is the air inlet for the 3 or 4 (depending on whether it was a GUPPY 1,1A,2,2A, or 3) 10 cylinder opposed piston Fairbanks Morse diesels. An induction valve that doesn't close creates a 10X pucker factor real fast. The ballast tanks have a vent valve at the top to vent air out of the tanks. The tanks themselves have open flooding ports in the bottom of each tank.
The main induction and vents are hydraulic actuated with a manual backup. LOTS of redundancy built into all the systems, including backup valves.
You could even blow the sanitary tank through the ships whistle, if you were so inclined
The main induction and vents are hydraulic actuated with a manual backup. LOTS of redundancy built into all the systems, including backup valves.
You could even blow the sanitary tank through the ships whistle, if you were so inclined
09-01-2004, 06:33 AM
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A good place to looks at the layout of the old fleet boats can be found at; www.maritime.org/fleetsub/
09-01-2004, 11:52 AM
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You could even blow the sanitary tank through the ships whistle, if you were so inclined [/B][/QUOTE]
OK THATS JUST W R O N G!!!!!
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[/B][/QUOTE] OK THATS JUST W R O N G!!!!!
Hope I am not Duty A Gang if they do!