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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 09:28 PM
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Garage door opener help.

I have an older Liftmaster door opener that has a bad beam sensor at the door. Is there any way to eliminate these two sensors? I know that after 93 they were required by law to have these but I dont want to spend money to replace these usless things. So, how do I eliminate them or can I?
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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I have an older Liftmaster door opener that has a bad beam sensor at the door. Is there any way to eliminate these two sensors? I know that after 93 they were required by law to have these but I dont want to spend money to replace these usless things. So, how do I eliminate them or can I?
Tie the two wires together that go to the sensors. I think.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 12:17 AM
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That was my first instinct too but no go there. I found some reading on it and have come to the conclusion there just about isnt anyway to do it.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 12:27 AM
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Maybe relocate them up higher where nothing will trigger them?
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 02:40 AM
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I just want to eliminate them because I am tired of replacing them. Every time the seasons change I have to replace them cause one went out. I have no issues with them stopping the door cause I dont have anything that gets in the way of the door.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:40 AM
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From http://forums.dealmac.com/read.php?8,2635139,2635170;

I have one technique. I opened the receiving end and desoldered the sensor diode. When stimulated by the transmitter, this diode should close or open it's own circuit, depending on the design. That will cause the receiver's logic to behave however it's supposed to. So, feel free to leave it an open circuit, or to close it by soldering in a wire. Reassemble and reinstall.

In my case, the experiment only indicated that the damage to my opener lay within the opener itself. So, doing this didn't solve my problem. I just thought I'd pass along what I came up with in the process of diagnosing my opener.
And from http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...171511AA0dNHX;

I also had a Chamberlain GDO, model #41A5389-1 with a broken IR sensor.

Adam and the guy who said to just point the sensors (might have to replace them) at each other are both right.

The circuit is not a simple NO/NC (normally open/normally closed) as was the case in most older GDO's. Therefore a person is unable to easily bypass the copyrighted "Protection System" by opening or closing any circuit.

In fact, there is a specific trouble code that is given when the wires to the IR are shorted or open.

Internally on the PC board, this "Protection System" is part of the processor that also controls the motor. The safety features must be present for the motor to operate, else you are returned with an LED error code:

# flashes - Problem
1-The Protector System wire open or totally misaligned
2-The Protector System wire shorted or black/white wire reversal
3-Door Control or Multi-Function control Panel wire shorted
4-IR sensor slightly misaligned (dim or flashing sensor LED)
5-Motor overheated/Possible RPM sensor failure -- unplug to reset
6-Motor circuit failure -- replace RX/LX board
Rapid-Chamberlain transmitter with the correct format code being received
(opener not necessarily programmed to respond)
If none of that applies, how about getting one last new set of sensors and mounting them taped together on the ceiling? They will be sensing the beam, sending the right signal to the opener and up out of the way so hopefully they'll last a little longer.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 08:32 AM
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I think I will have to try mounting them on the ceiling and seeing what happens. I cant figure out what makes them go out. They are not being hit and dont get any water on them or anything.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 09:11 AM
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I have trouble with my door only in the afternoon when the sun shines into the garage. I think the sunlight hits the sensor and screws it up.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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I had one that did that one time. That was aggrevating for sure.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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I had this problem in the past. At one time on ebay you could buy a kit to eliminate the sensors. Seems like it was a resistor to wire in. At the time I found these our kids were smaller and she who must be obeyed strongly requested that I get the new sensors. I have not seen the resistors since although I have not looked much since...
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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Maybe there are not failing as frequently and you think, maybe they need alignment.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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No you can not eliminate them. They need to be hooked up and working. Check Ebay or phone around to local door company's they might save some old ones kicking around. We sell the new ones for 50.00.
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