The Forgotten Diner 1/29-2/4
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From: Ohio: Home of the disappointing sports teams
A dog?? You need help buddy.
We got a new 20" Dewalt Radial with a 36" cross cut. I'm currently installing a 8' Biesemeyer slide fence on the roller conveyors. Gonna be pretty sweet!
A dog..
A dog..
Spoken like true city folk!
My friend just picked up an industrial Delta table saw at auction. Bid on a big 36" planer too but it went for more than he was willing to pay for it. Bid on a jointer too and didn't get it. He's still looking but I'm not so sure auctions are the way to go. He got lucky with the table saw but most of the auctions I've been too usually get too out of control price wise.
A saw.
A saw.
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From: Ohio: Home of the disappointing sports teams
Spoken like true city folk!
My friend just picked up an industrial Delta table saw at auction. Bid on a big 36" planer too but it went for more than he was willing to pay for it. Bid on a jointer too and didn't get it. He's still looking but I'm not so sure auctions are the way to go. He got lucky with the table saw but most of the auctions I've been too usually get too out of control price wise.
My friend just picked up an industrial Delta table saw at auction. Bid on a big 36" planer too but it went for more than he was willing to pay for it. Bid on a jointer too and didn't get it. He's still looking but I'm not so sure auctions are the way to go. He got lucky with the table saw but most of the auctions I've been too usually get too out of control price wise.
Just messing with ya

The is a local wood tooling company that really helps us out on our tools. There's a huge jump in price from "Home Depot wood working industrial tools" to real industrial tools. Some of the industrial DeWalt radials are in upwards of 30,000
Needless to say ours was used version with a waranty
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Here's a pic you both (Scott and Eric) might like. I was picking up some 2 cycle saw mix yesterday and the local Stihl dealer. After the tornadoes in April they purchased an automated saw chain sharpener because they couldn't keep up with the demand. It's from Germany, air actuated chain movement and cuts the teeth and the drags at the same time. Set it up, push the button and walk away for about 5 minutes. You too can have one of these for only $19k, air supply not included.
What someone needs to invent is a small, compact unit into which you could insert a chain that's still on the saw, and have it sharpen automatically. And not one of those 'slip over the bar' sharpening contraptions that require a special chain. It would need to sharpen all the common chains. Of course, there is NO substitute for hand sharpening. Takes off less material and you end up with a sharper chain that holds its' edge longer.
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 1st:
1788 - Isaac Briggs and William Longstreet patented the steamboat.
1790 - The U.S. Supreme Court convened for the first time in New York City.
1861 - Texas voted to secede from the Union.
1862 - "The Battle Hymn of the Republic," by Julia Ward Howe was first published in the "Atlantic Monthly."
1867 - In the U.S., bricklayers start working 8-hour days.
1884 - The first edition of the Oxford English Dictionary was published.
1898 - The Travelers Insurance Company of Hartford, CT, issued the first automobile insurance policy. Dr. Truman Martin of Buffalo, NY, paid $11.25 for the policy, which gave him $5,000 in liability coverage.
1900 - Eastman Kodak Co. introduced the $1 Brownie box camera.
1913 - Grand Central Terminal (also known as Grand Central Station) opened in New York City, NY. It was the largest train station in the world.
1919 - The first Miss America was crowned in New York City.
1920 - The first armored car was introduced.
1920 - Canada's Royal North West Mounted Police changed their name to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. The organization was commissioned in 1873.
1921 - Carmen Fasanella registered as a taxicab owner and driver in Princeton, New Jersey. Fasanella retired November 2, 1989 after 68 years and 243 days of service.
1951 - The first telecast of an atomic explosion took place.
1951 - The first X-ray moving picture process was demonstrated.
1957 - P.H. Young became the first black pilot on a scheduled passenger airline.
1968 - During the Vietnam War, South Vietnamese National Police Chief Brig. Gen. Nguyen Ngoc Loan executed a Viet Cong officer with a pistol shot to the head. The scene was captured in a news photograph.
1979 - Patty Hearst was released from prison after serving 22 months of a seven-year sentence for bank robbery. Her sentence had been commuted by U.S. President Carter.
1991 - A USAir jetliner crashed atop a commuter plane at Los Angeles International Airport. 35 people were killed.
1994 - Jeff Gillooly pled guilty in Portland, OR, for his role in the attack on figure skater Nancy Kerrigan. Gillooly, Tonya Harding's ex-husband, struck a plea bargain under which he confessed to racketeering charges in exchange for testimony implicating Harding.
1999 - Former White House intern Monica Lewinsky gave a deposition that was videotaped for senators weighing impeachment charges against U.S. President Clinton.
2001 - Three Scottish judges found Abdel Basset al-Mergrahi guilty of the 1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight 103, which killed 270 people. The court said that Megrahi was a member of the Libyan intelligence service. Al-Amin Khalifa, who had been co-accused, was acquitted and freed.
2003 - NASA's space shuttle Columbia exploded while re-entering the Earth's atmosphere. All seven astronauts on board were killed.
THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:
The only difference between a good day and a bad day is your attitude.
Coffee's on.
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 1st:
1788 - Isaac Briggs and William Longstreet patented the steamboat.
1790 - The U.S. Supreme Court convened for the first time in New York City.
1861 - Texas voted to secede from the Union.
1862 - "The Battle Hymn of the Republic," by Julia Ward Howe was first published in the "Atlantic Monthly."
1867 - In the U.S., bricklayers start working 8-hour days.
1884 - The first edition of the Oxford English Dictionary was published.
1898 - The Travelers Insurance Company of Hartford, CT, issued the first automobile insurance policy. Dr. Truman Martin of Buffalo, NY, paid $11.25 for the policy, which gave him $5,000 in liability coverage.
1900 - Eastman Kodak Co. introduced the $1 Brownie box camera.
1913 - Grand Central Terminal (also known as Grand Central Station) opened in New York City, NY. It was the largest train station in the world.
1919 - The first Miss America was crowned in New York City.
1920 - The first armored car was introduced.
1920 - Canada's Royal North West Mounted Police changed their name to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. The organization was commissioned in 1873.
1921 - Carmen Fasanella registered as a taxicab owner and driver in Princeton, New Jersey. Fasanella retired November 2, 1989 after 68 years and 243 days of service.
1951 - The first telecast of an atomic explosion took place.
1951 - The first X-ray moving picture process was demonstrated.
1957 - P.H. Young became the first black pilot on a scheduled passenger airline.
1968 - During the Vietnam War, South Vietnamese National Police Chief Brig. Gen. Nguyen Ngoc Loan executed a Viet Cong officer with a pistol shot to the head. The scene was captured in a news photograph.
1979 - Patty Hearst was released from prison after serving 22 months of a seven-year sentence for bank robbery. Her sentence had been commuted by U.S. President Carter.
1991 - A USAir jetliner crashed atop a commuter plane at Los Angeles International Airport. 35 people were killed.
1994 - Jeff Gillooly pled guilty in Portland, OR, for his role in the attack on figure skater Nancy Kerrigan. Gillooly, Tonya Harding's ex-husband, struck a plea bargain under which he confessed to racketeering charges in exchange for testimony implicating Harding.
1999 - Former White House intern Monica Lewinsky gave a deposition that was videotaped for senators weighing impeachment charges against U.S. President Clinton.
2001 - Three Scottish judges found Abdel Basset al-Mergrahi guilty of the 1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight 103, which killed 270 people. The court said that Megrahi was a member of the Libyan intelligence service. Al-Amin Khalifa, who had been co-accused, was acquitted and freed.
2003 - NASA's space shuttle Columbia exploded while re-entering the Earth's atmosphere. All seven astronauts on board were killed.
THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:
The only difference between a good day and a bad day is your attitude.
Coffee's on.
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The problem with a unit that would sharpen the chain while it was still on the saw is you need to clamp the tooth to keep it from moving. As far as hand sharpening compared to a bench grinder, I wouldn't think there would really be much difference. The real problem I've found is most folks won't stop when the teeth start to round over. I've got all 5 saws from the church now. The 3 Stihls were new out of the box and after one days use, if the pattern continues, I'll be lucky to be able to sharpen them 2 more times. Instead of stopping and replacing or sharpening the chains, the guys just kept on abusing them. I've had to remove a full third of the tooth just to get an edge back. The link below will show you the type of hand file I use in the field. It cuts the tooth and the raker at the same time, keeping the tooth fully in the wood. All you have to do is flip the flat file over when changing from the right to the left side of the chain.
http://www.5min.com/Video/Tree-Cutti...ening-15094965

http://www.5min.com/Video/Tree-Cutti...ening-15094965
The machine sharpening is really a HUGE difference from hand sharpening. The mechanical grinders, 1) take too much material off the tooth, 2) don't really maintain the tooth radius the way the tooth was designed because as the grinding stone wears down, the radius it grinds changes, 3) grinding stones produce heat which takes the hardness out of the tooth, especially as the tooth becomes smaller and there's less material to dissipate heat, 4) mechanical grinding cannot take into account the 2 different types of teeth; chisel, & semi-chisel and the different ways they should be sharpened, 5) the length of the tooth HAS to be taken into account in relation to all the other teeth in the chain. If one is damaged to the point where sharpening will make it substantially shorter than all the others, then it should be left alone until the other teeth reach its' length, and finally, 6) people who are using chainsaws should know the basics of what they are doing, both to be safe as well as proficient, and this includes the maintenance of their machines. To me, it's like driving a car without being able to put gas in it.
You're right in that people need to know when to stop. Chainsaw chains should never be used until they're so dull they're burning their way thru the wood. Even in debris like you have near you right now, I would be touching up my chain as soon as I noticed the teeth getting a little residue sticking to the top of them. 1 or 2 strokes with a file will return the chain to where it should be. I can do this on my 30" bar in about a minute and I keep a file in my pocket with my wedges.
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From: Ohio: Home of the disappointing sports teams
Here's a pic you both (Scott and Eric) might like. I was picking up some 2 cycle saw mix yesterday and the local Stihl dealer. After the tornadoes in April they purchased an automated saw chain sharpener because they couldn't keep up with the demand. It's from Germany, air actuated chain movement and cuts the teeth and the drags at the same time. Set it up, push the button and walk away for about 5 minutes. You too can have one of these for only $19k, air supply not included.


Or 3800 chains at $5/ea.
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From: Ohio: Home of the disappointing sports teams
Yeah but YOU still have to cut down the tree.


