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Old May 16, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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Flushing the Koran

Is it just me or is the flushing of the Koran out of hand. I watch the stories and film clips fresh out of Iraq/Iran or where ever the riots are flaring up. It really PO`s me to see this when every one of the riot pics someone is toteing an American flag thats been lit on fire like we`ve seen so many times before. Should we call for a political war against everyone for burning our flag?? Bombs away Berkley Ca. and San Francisco Ca. etc,etc.
Old May 16, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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Old May 16, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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Well, first we are all going to play the "the media hates George Bush" card...

Which will be responded with the "media hates John Kerry and Al Gore" card...


Then we'll all figure out that the media is too self-interested to have a political standing and is just trying to make money.



I'm amazed that we can cause massive riots and 17 deaths by using the Koran as toliet paper...
First of all, it strikes me funny that the rest of the world has more faith in our media than we do.
Second of all, I wonder how many governments we could topple, wars we could start and people we could kill if Newsweek published a headline, "George Bush Embarks on Seventh Crusade- NATO Declares War On Muslims".


Makes me want to try it, personally.
Old May 16, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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Newsweek retracted it today, said their source isn't sure it happened.

If flushing the Koran down the toilet is what it takes to get info out of the dirtbags, I'm all for it. I wouldn't even be against closing desk drawers on sensitive body parts, if it was being done to get information.

This is different from the crap that went on at Abu Grahib, that was just some sick twisted people's idea of fun. There was no higher purpose to it.
Old May 16, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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From Rueters:

Newsweek magazine said on Sunday it erred in a May 9 report that U.S. interrogators desecrated the Koran at Guantanamo Bay, and apologized to the victims of deadly Muslim protests sparked by the article.
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Editor Mark Whitaker said the magazine inaccurately reported that U.S. military investigators had confirmed that personnel at the detention facility in Cuba had flushed the Muslim holy book down the toilet.

The report sparked angry and violent protests across the Muslim world from
Afghanistan, where 16 were killed and more than 100 injured, to Pakistan to Indonesia to Gaza. In the past week it was condemned in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, Malaysia and by the Arab League.

On Sunday, Afghan Muslim clerics threatened to call for a holy war against the United States.

"We regret that we got any part of our story wrong, and extend our sympathies to victims of the violence and to the U.S. soldiers caught in its midst," Whitaker wrote in the magazine's latest issue, due to appear on U.S. newsstands on Monday.
When JQ Public causes something like this, they're criminally charged. Why doesn't this apply to the media as well? The author of the article, along with the editors that approved the story, should be charged and held accountable.
Old May 16, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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The Koran is fiction, so what's the big deal?

I mean, last time a copy of "Gone with the Wind" was tossed, you didn't see a bunch of people take to the streets.

The Arabs that are rioting in the streets have adopted violent protest as a lifestyle. Some Muslim suspect was arrested in the US? PROTEST!

50% of the population is under the age of 30. They are young hotheads whose lives are devoid of purpose. The are the willing manipulatees of the Muslim clerics who give them a feeling of purpose.

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Old May 16, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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Heads should roll at Newsweak for this. Many journalists think that they have this noble calling to do what they do, some think they are beyond the law because they are covered under the first amendment. I am a beleiver in the first amendment but this is like shouting fire in a crowded theatre. Shame on them.
Old May 16, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by HOHN
The Koran is fiction, so what's the big deal?

I mean, last time a copy of "Gone with the Wind" was tossed, you didn't see a bunch of people take to the streets.

The Arabs that are rioting in the streets have adopted violent protest as a lifestyle. Some Muslim suspect was arrested in the US? PROTEST!

50% of the population is under the age of 30. They are young hotheads whose lives are devoid of purpose. The are the willing manipulatees of the Muslim clerics who give them a feeling of purpose.

jlh
Hmmm... interesting perspective.

Just how would you react if an official of an Arab (or any other coutry, for that matter) flushed a Bible down the toilet? I mean, what's the harm, right? They believe it's fiction.

I think the point was that it was US government people doing it vs the average hothead burning an American flag.
Old May 16, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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How would I react? I wouldn't care. They have already rejected the Bible, so what difference does it make? They have the right to reject the free gift of salvationin Christ. Unfortunately, that wil result in some rather undesirable consequences.

Jesus died for the Arabs, too..

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Old May 16, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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There is a fairly rich history between the Christian and Muslim religions. Much of the Koran is based on canonical Christian and Jewish Scriptures. Do not let the radical faction color your entire view of their religion, just as we shouldn't let the radical aspects of Christianity be allowed to present the "snapshot" of how your faith should be viewed.
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All religions are a fabrication of man to be at peace with its existance. (prove me wrong )

I think a multibillion dollar civil lawsuit for wrongful death needs to be filed against Newsweek.
Old May 16, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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Newsweek retracted it today, said their source isn't sure it happened.

What truly amazes me with this story of someone flushing a book down a toilet and in doing so would actually cause a riot that results in the deaths of 17 people. I don’t believe in anything strong enough that would make me want to die a senseless death for something that someone did halfway around the world. Whether it was true or not. Fundamentalism is part of the problem. Anybody wanting to martyr himself for a belief is beyond me.

Flush Moby Dick. I hated that book in high school. I also have a couple of old accounting books that I would gladly donate from college.

britt

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Originally posted by Fronty Owner
All religions are a fabrication of man to be at peace with its existance. (prove me wrong )

you and i have a lot in common.

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Old May 16, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by Fronty Owner
All religions are a fabrication of man to be at peace with its existance. (prove me wrong )

I think a multibillion dollar civil lawsuit for wrongful death needs to be filed against Newsweek.

First of all, I'll get to the religion thing at a later date. Let me just state that if you logically reason things down far enough, God explains a whole lot. Look up Descartes to begin with...


Second of all, it isn't Newsweek's problem... They screwed up, they have the right to do so. All that they can rightly be liable for is a lose of buisness. It isn't their fault that they caused the deaths of 17 people. It's the fanatics that decided to go out and start trampling each other... Newsweek just accidently incited it.

We as American's also better protect our citizens and corporations from international lawsuits- you are entitled to a certain degree of immunity by being American. The government should protect its citizens from different countries; if not, it kind of removes the point of having a government in its first place.


And it amazes me that we managed to provoke this kind of reaction, too. Man are those Arabs unhappy at us! Obviously it doesn't take much of a flashpoint to start off something!


And just imagine how many extremist America-haters we can get to kill themselves if we throw a Koran desecrating party at my house! How about I buy some cheap Korans and you all can come over with matches, pig blood and full colons? We can turn it into a bar-b-que and film it all for those nice folk that post the decapitations on the internet!
We could probably wipe out half the Arab fundamentalist population overnight if we were to do something like that!
Old May 16, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by Begle1
First of all, I'll get to the religion thing at a later date. Let me just state that if you logically reason things down far enough, God explains a whole lot. Look up Descartes to begin with...


Second of all, it isn't Newsweek's problem... They screwed up, they have the right to do so. All that they can rightly be liable for is a lose of buisness. It isn't their fault that they caused the deaths of 17 people. It's the fanatics that decided to go out and start trampling each other... Newsweek just accidently incited it.

We as American's also better protect our citizens and corporations from international lawsuits- you are entitled to a certain degree of immunity by being American. The government should protect its citizens from different countries; if not, it kind of removes the point of having a government in its first place.


And it amazes me that we managed to provoke this kind of reaction, too. Man are those Arabs unhappy at us! Obviously it doesn't take much of a flashpoint to start off something!


And just imagine how many extremist America-haters we can get to kill themselves if we throw a Koran desecrating party at my house! How about I buy some cheap Korans and you all can come over with matches, pig blood and full colons? We can turn it into a bar-b-que and film it all for those nice folk that post the decapitations on the internet!
We could probably wipe out half the Arab fundamentalist population overnight if we were to do something like that!
If firearm manufactures can be named in a lawsuit because someone was shot with their gun, I think its perfectly fair to name a media source in a lawsuit for taking irresponsible actions (not checking a source) and causing the deaths. I dont give a rats rear end if the foreigners get any money from Newsweek, I think the AMERICAN families that lost family members need to sue. Afterall, this is America, lets sue someone.



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