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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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That's your job and you are employed by the same people you are sworn to protect, unfortunately you are under our scrutiny as well. with the amount of authority that you as a LEO hold I would think that is a small price to pay.
Wow, really? False complaints, a small price to pay? If it's legit, fine. False? No.
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 11:12 PM
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That Officer Jack Was Mean to Me!!!!!!!!! Waaaaaa Waaaaaaa
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 01:31 AM
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Yes, you are wrong. Half of the complaints an officer gets are a lie. At LEAST that. Angry citizens call in and lie, right to a Sgt. and say something that isn't true. It's investigated, written down and goes into my file forever, whether I did what that person said or not. Video has proven them to be liars, but it doesn't matter. It's still there. The only way that complaints would matter is if they are legit. The majority are NOT legit because whiners can't seem to take responsibility for their own actions, so they go after an officer in the worst way they can find.
I wouldn't say completly wrong....

I drive a company van for a living, the thing has logo's and phone numbers all over. Yes, I get complaints about my driving frome time to time. And yes, at times the story that comes in has been wildly exaggerated by the caller as to what really happened.

Much the same as I don't have any facts about the Dallas police officers conduct, I don't think your privy to that info either. If there has been questions raised about his conduct in the past, there may be more to the story.




Originally Posted by annabelle
Police Officers lie to justify their actions............been there seen that.......it's just not the general population that lies.
http://www.vancouversun.com/technolo...113/story.html

This is a bit of a sad story. Guy just emigrates from Poland. Gets off the plane doesn't speak english, gets lost in the secure part of the terminal for 12 hours (small airport) then snaps. Tosses furnature around etc.

Cops come in and light the guy up 5 times in 45? seconds with a taser. The guy pretty much dies on the spot.

Now this is where it takes a twist and shines a bad light on our police force. The four officers give a statement as to what happened. Guy was wild, didn't go down with the first taser, madman, uncooperative, etc. etc.

But then there was this guy videotaping the whole thing. Now the officers statements didn't line up with the video content.

Google vancouver taser inquiry for more info.

It has been an eye opener for sure....
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 06:49 AM
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... but name calling and the like has never been allowed here. That is one of the reasons I like it here so much. Ramlovingvet I know that is not how you normally post, or Jack for that matter, but I wish you wouldn't lower yourelf to that level. You are better than that and so is this site.
This was one of my thoughts as well kelley. There has been a slow moving and subtle 'change' on this site over the last 9 months or so that I can't really say I agree with, but I've always preached to other people here that if you don't like something about the site you are free to leave. I guess I'm taking my own advice and just keeping my mouth shut for once!

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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 07:15 AM
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Wow, really? False complaints, a small price to pay? If it's legit, fine. False? No.

Nobody said it was fair.... You are in the public eye and under scrutiny from people. All people are different from each other whether that be from race, upbringing, etc. So you get some liars, big deal you know when your are right and that's all that matters.

Hold your head high, you signed on for this, because I don't want you to treat me or my family harshly,or with an iron fist, when you pull me over.
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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Well, I started this post and and have been absent since. Its part of my job to accept the complaints of people against officers in my department. I tell them the whole procedure from start to finish. But before I finish with them I also tell them that when the investigation is over and it is proven that they lied, the officer, by law is given access to all of the info in the investigation and can sue them for slander. I let them know so they can make sure they have their facts correct. Probably more than half never come back. Some of you bleeding hearts will probably say that I am trying to intimidate them. Not true. Having an internal investigation conducted against you as a police officer is a very nerve wracking event, even if you are not guilty of what you are being accused of. I just want the complainant to know the entire procedure before they sign the sworn statement.
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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Bearwhiz, I wish it was like that everywhere. There have been some instances where officers have sued and won substantially. If not civil penalty, there should be a criminal penalty for filing a false police report or the like.

I'm sorry but being under public scrutiny and all that doesn't wash with me when it comes to a false complaint from someone who is doing nothing but trying to get you fired out of spite. There is no penalty for that, and there should be.

Like I said, taking a legit complaint is fine. You deal with it and take your lumps but there should be consequences for someone filing a false complaint, just like there is if you file a false report for a crime that didn't actually occur.
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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I might as well give my opinion since we went this way in this thread.

If a person follows the rules/laws then there is no need to ever be in the position in the first place. If you find yourself in the position of being issued a citation or being arrested as a suspect, etc. then you deserve it and in my opinion you just lost your right to open your mouth. It seems we, the public, want our cake and eat it too. When we are assaulted, robbed or our trucks are vandalized, etc. we want the person that did it to receive the full extent of the consequences the law allows but if we run a red light then we cry foul when we can't just be let go with a warning or a lesser citation and fee. Getting mouthy only aggravates the situation and the officer. I'm not perfect and have been pulled over before, been in trouble for fighting, etc. I always keep my mouth shut and remain respectful. I have never been treated unfairly, not once. I have been told by the officer(s) that since I was honest and forthright with the info and admittance that I was given a break. I appreciate that and I can identify with that. They have a tough job and one that I do not want. Give them a break next time and see how far it takes you. If you are in their sights then you are either really unlucky at being in the wrong place at the wrong time or you're guilty and the latter is usually 99% true. I'm not saying humans don't make mistakes either so don't even start that crap with me. That's a silly argument and one everyone knows the answers to.
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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Some of the comments on this thread were directed toward me since my last post on this thread. I agree, I was out of line. It is not normal for me to post like that.

I think I was in a state of shock reading that there was somebody (anybody) who would not help their fellow man, police or not..........who could be or was dying on the side of the road.


I want to publicly apologize to AJPulley, and to others on this board, for my comment to him. I shouldn't have called him a name or made an insult. My fingers were typing as my head was fuming. I hope he and others will accept it and I will try better to think first before typing something like that again.

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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasCTD
Some of the comments on this thread were directed toward me since my last post on this thread. I agree, I was out of line. It is not normal for me to post like that.

I think I was in a state of shock reading that there was somebody (anybody) who would not help their fellow man, police or not..........who could be or was dying on the side of the road.


I want to publicly apologize to AJPulley, and to others on this board, for my comment to him. I shouldn't have called him a name or made an insult. My fingers were typing as my head was fuming. I hope he and others will accept it and I will try better to think first before typing something like that again.

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I dont think you were out of line.. You said what I felt..
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by staarma
I might as well give my opinion since we went this way in this thread.

If a person follows the rules/laws then there is no need to ever be in the position in the first place. If you find yourself in the position of being issued a citation or being arrested as a suspect, etc. then you deserve it and in my opinion you just lost your right to open your mouth. It seems we, the public, want our cake and eat it too. When we are assaulted, robbed or our trucks are vandalized, etc. we want the person that did it to receive the full extent of the consequences the law allows but if we run a red light then we cry foul when we can't just be let go with a warning or a lesser citation and fee. Getting mouthy only aggravates the situation and the officer. I'm not perfect and have been pulled over before, been in trouble for fighting, etc. I always keep my mouth shut and remain respectful. I have never been treated unfairly, not once. I have been told by the officer(s) that since I was honest and forthright with the info and admittance that I was given a
break. I appreciate that and I can identify with that. They have a tough job and one that I do not want. Give them a break next time and see how far it takes you. If you are in their sights then you are either really unlucky at being in the wrong place at the wrong time or you're guilty and the latter is usually 99% true. I'm not saying humans don't make mistakes either so don't even start that crap with me. That's a silly argument and one everyone knows the answers to.
Good Post, I feel the same way!
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