Gatherings
hey angelo sounds good, ill call you later in the week. maybe this weekend, if not to busy.as far as pat, do you think it would be worth it to go over there in person and talk to him, cause i know hes good at that. maybe a chance to redeem himself.are you going to the track on fri.
well at least you are on track to a fix Ang, if ya need help on directions on your way out there give me a call, or if ya want to borrow a gps let me know. hey keith, how is your tranny doing? bet you are havin a blast driving it now, easy on the rest of the parts now till ya get er enough air to keep things cool.
level 10 will pay one day
y did you go with a duramax pump?
dont worry about that mike i am looking into a htt 64/71/13 im going to see how it goes and when i get bored a s480 to go with that evil
y did you go with a duramax pump?
dont worry about that mike i am looking into a htt 64/71/13 im going to see how it goes and when i get bored a s480 to go with that evil
No I'm going to just let it go. I just ordered a full Gorends trans to be built next week. I ordered it with everything possible except the billet output shaft.(full race except set up to tow) This is the last time I will ever have transmission problems. I left the output stock so I have a weak link so if anything breaks hopefully it will be the output.
Hey Angelo mabey we should both go over there and team up on him....be sides the leak that came back ....scince I added a couple hundred extra HP shes acting a little funny almost the same thing as you trucks runnin up to 3gs and not really doing much and thats with my smarty turned up and my TST set on kill.......dose your trans delay engagement when first put in gear?
Hey Angelo maybe we should both go over there and team up on him....be sides the leak that came back ....scince I added a couple hundred extra HP shes acting a little funny almost the same thing as you trucks runnin up to 3gs and not really doing much and thats with my smarty turned up and my TST set on kill.......dose your trans delay engagement when first put in gear?
My problem showed up this last time it went in about two weeks ago. I think he was trying to save the trans when he knew that I was going to make the jump to over 600. If you decide to sue let me know. After I figure out actually whats in this thing I might be able to get him for theft by deception.
Good luck in trying to get anything fixed. Your probably going to have to follow in my foot steps unfortunately. Just remember if you hit him the lawyer is going to cost about 1/2 or better of what it would cost to just have it done right. Thats what I tell myself anyway.

I took the one I had that they put together and I was disgusted. All he did was a stock rebuild and a crappy one at that.
Front clutch had a 6 element clutch, it should have been at minimum 8 elements 10 would have been better.
Unit endplay was excessive, it was over .100" which allowed the front clutch oil port to run too close to the sealing rings and loose pressure resulting in front clutch failure and no reverse, also happened around 1000 miles initially.
Front pump was junk, they never found that.
Selective spacer that goes on the in intermediate shaft was completely worn out and should have been replaced.
Valve body setup was useless, stock with line pressure turned up.
I took the mess up to him in the back of the truck and asked him why on earth this trans was put together that way. Gave me some BS which I called and he changed his tune. I squeezed him for parts to rebuild it including a billet input on his dime.
Front clutch had a 6 element clutch, it should have been at minimum 8 elements 10 would have been better.
Unit endplay was excessive, it was over .100" which allowed the front clutch oil port to run too close to the sealing rings and loose pressure resulting in front clutch failure and no reverse, also happened around 1000 miles initially.
Front pump was junk, they never found that.
Selective spacer that goes on the in intermediate shaft was completely worn out and should have been replaced.
Valve body setup was useless, stock with line pressure turned up.
I took the mess up to him in the back of the truck and asked him why on earth this trans was put together that way. Gave me some BS which I called and he changed his tune. I squeezed him for parts to rebuild it including a billet input on his dime.
well i cant wait to see level 10 at diesel truck nationals this year im going to lace into him like no other i said something at the first riverdale show about this guy and now look what has happened
angelo, u r right nathan is a cool guy
angelo, u r right nathan is a cool guy
thats unbelievable, i was 3 days away from dropping off my truck at level 10, then thank god i met angelo, and he told me some facts which i didnt know.he saved me alot of grief and aggravation.
Angelo, that really sucks about the whole deal. I hope for your sake and peace of mind that you can ge thim for something and recover something from them. George, I would definitely say that you lucked out on the whole deal 
Any plans of trying Island this weekend? Looks like it is supposed to clear up pretty nicely for hte end of the week.

Any plans of trying Island this weekend? Looks like it is supposed to clear up pretty nicely for hte end of the week.
Just for documentations sake Angelo, have them video tape that trans teardown, at the least to show at gary's case to swhow it wasn't a one time deal. man what a nasty day, horrid to be working on drainage i tell ya that much.
You guys (Gary and Angelo) should be able to get something back if the parts that come out of your trannies are not billet or even meant for a 400hp+ truck. If you paid for it, than you should get it, no questions asked. I would videotape the teardown and than take it to a lawyer or maybe the Better Business Bureau. You guys can't be the only ones he screwed in the area. If you can't get any money back, than you can hit him where it really hurts: future customers.
Keith how do you like your valve body with lock up switch? I'm getting the same type valve body so I can lock the converter switch at the line and it will lock when it hits second and stays locked. I'm going one step tighter on the converter than you, how does yours feel?
I'm now only going to have billet drums and input because Dave is no longer running billet intermediate shafts because he has said he has better luck with the new stock ones not breaking. I also wanted to keep the output stock so it's still the weak link. Everything else is upgraded.
I will get all old parts back along with a list of what they are along with digital pictures.
I will drop the truck off on Sunday and hopefully pick back up on Thursday.
Time will tell
Angelo
I'm now only going to have billet drums and input because Dave is no longer running billet intermediate shafts because he has said he has better luck with the new stock ones not breaking. I also wanted to keep the output stock so it's still the weak link. Everything else is upgraded.
I will get all old parts back along with a list of what they are along with digital pictures.
I will drop the truck off on Sunday and hopefully pick back up on Thursday.
Time will tell
Angelo


