Ok-posted a problem about my truck-someone asked if I might have gas in the tank. I pumped in half a tank of fuel two days before the problems arose. It was at the diesel pump. Today the truck will not even idle-if it were a gasser I'd say it was way out of timming. Misses stumbles-will not accelerate-lots of white smoke and a putrid smell out of the exhaust. I sucked a can of fuel out of the tank. It had the look of gas and not a very strong smell of diesel-but it had the blueish look around the edges of diesel and it wouldn't lite with a match. Still all in all it would be a fifty fifty mix of the two. How does one tell what it is for sure. Sorry about the long post.

 

I bet you did get dome some gas diesel mix from the pump. Our engine will not run at all on straight gas. Does the exhaust smel like a gas engine? I would drain the tank completely, as well as the fuel water seperator. Refill the seperator with good fresh diesel, and put at least 5-10 gallons in the tank. Bump the starter to run the lift pump for 25 seconds a few times to purge the fuel line and get good fuel throughout the system and try to get it running again.

Also keep a sample from your tank, and try to get one from the pump you filled up at. And I hope you kept the fuel reciept. The station may be liable and have to pay for a tank cleaning.

 

How about a heads-up on where you bought the fuel..............

 

After you pumped you tank out nad replaced it with diesel make sure to dump in a good amount of power service or similar. Need to lube up the VP44 / LP pumps.

 

Bought the gas from the local Citgo. I should have suspected something was wrong-he's always 5-7 cents cheaper than everyone else in his prices. Went to a diesel perfomance shop in my area and he smelled it and said that some stations cut the expensive diesel -$2.75 around here-with cheaper unleaded. But tis guy cut it way too much. The gentleman at the shop said Dodge will not cover it under warranty and they will know that it was contaminated fuel even if I wash it out. Kept some from my tank and bought another gallon today-smell worse and was as clear as regular gas. Called my local weights and measures and they can't get to the statio till the end of the month! So I took a sample to a company that retrofits gasoline stations-they'll test it for me for $85. gonna call Citgo to complain tommorrow and the local paper and news station-I'll be damed if those jerks* think they're gonna cut the full and save money and stick me with the bill!
By the way has anyone had work done by a third party shop over the weekend and submitt the bill to Dodge to be coverd under the warrenty??
Sorry about the ranting!

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One way we use at work, is to use a clean rag like a hand towel. Dip the corner of the rag into the suspected fuel. You don't need much, maybe 2 inches of the corner a little wet but not dripping wet. Lay the rag out in the middle of the driveway, away from the vehicles ect. Using a grill lighter, or long matches, carefully, light the wet end of the rag. If it 'flares-up' you have gas in the tank, if it does not, then you are ok.

 

if you put fuel with gas in it two days prior it would have acted up very quickly. Have you checked for codes? sounds like injection pump died to me

 

Called our local weights and measures department and they met me at the station the this morning. The gentlemen told me that he was at this same station the day before for a complaint of diesel in the gas! Turns out while I was there this morning a guy with an infinity that was repaired came in with a bill for $6500 and the gas manager wrote him out a check to cover the repairs! The weights and measures guy smelled my sample for my truck and said that their was definitely gas in the diesel. He took a sample and they will send it out for testing-I'll get results in a week. In the mean time the gas station manager told me to get the truck repaired and submitt to him an original repair bill and he will reinburse me.
By the way-my diesel mechanic and two Dodge dealers told me that Hess is the only Company to buy diesel from-they process their own, everyone else buys from other venders.

 

Simple case of tired tanker driver.

Probably had his main tanker full of unleaded, and a pup trailer full of Diesel.

Just mixed up the holes he was dumping into and got Diesel in the unleaded tank, unleaded in the Diesel tank.

Happens more often than you would think, and the station ends up footing the bill for a lot of repairs.
Sad thing is, a lot of folks that filled up that day don't even consider what might have happened, and end up paying for the repairs themselves.

I always start filling up slowly, watching what comes out of the nozzel, and giving it a little sniff before turning up the flow and washing the windshield.


phox

 

I have heard the same good thing about Hess. Also, they are the only ones around here who display the cetane rating ("45 Minimum Cetane Rating", right on the pump). Luckily there are two of them within two miles of me. Both have the diesel pump on a separate island away from the rest so the big rigs can get in. The likelihood of a mixup should be less. But to avoid the experience of the Infinity driver you mentioned, I think I'll take my gasser car to a gas only station from now on. Good luck, please keep us posted.

 

I always thought that your engine would over-rev till it ate itself if it got gas in the system ?? I remember a couple posts on here talking about the fumes from someone filling THEIR car next to us at the diesel pump causing that problem if we had the truck running at the time.

Is this not the same thing ??

PISTOL

 

Nope. Fuel vapor is one thing, liquid fuel is another. With gasoline it is the vapor that readily burns. When enough gets sucked down the intake thats when you get runaway engine. Same goes for trucks that are used in oil fields and refineries. Those truck are required to have some form of valve in the intake that will completely block the intake to prevent runaway.

Now with liquid gas going into the engine via the injectors you have to consider that gas engines run much lower compression. Since our engines have high compression, the gas will detonate early in the compression stroke. Kinda like running with your timing retarded too much.