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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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Brakes and Steering Froze!

Not literally though, the truck was parked in the garage over nice, lows near -15F.

When I started it the power steering was stuck and groaning, like when it either sits outside all night or if the PS had just died. I have had this happen a little in the extreme cold so I still backed out, but then when I tried to brake I couldn't! The pedal was very firm and did no good. Luckily I was not going to fast, and it eventually slowed.

After about 5 minutes, it was right back to normal????

I have the slow leak between VP and PSP, but the level of fluid is good. I will flush when I get back home.

Any ideas? Causes for this issue? The brakes are connected how to the PS pump? Booster? Not too smart in that area.

Just got free sec a work, sorry no search yet....
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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I have a idea:

Cold PS fluid

Makes sense to me real cold PS fluid thick like molasses.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Hi 13ALPHA

I had the same symptoms as you explain a few years ago with my 2001.5. I discovered that the power steering pump would freeze in the winter due to condensation or water in the pump. I decided to change the fluid with synthetic power steering fluid. I have not had any problems since.

In order to replace the fluid I used a turkey baster and a synthetic PS fluid. Redline, Amsoil, and Royal Purple carry synthetic fluids that fit the bill. Using the turkey baster or a pump from a bottle of hand soap or shampoo, extract the fluid from the reservoir and refill it with fresh fluid. Next day or so do the same thing. At that time you will have changed out 95% of the fluid with little effort and no mess.
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Old Dec 14, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by estrada5.9
I have a idea:

Cold PS fluid

Makes sense to me real cold PS fluid thick like molasses.
Yeah, except the truck was in the garage over night, about 60F. Never had issues before.

Originally Posted by Dr.Dizzle
Hi 13ALPHA

I had the same symptoms as you explain a few years ago with my 2001.5. I discovered that the power steering pump would freeze in the winter due to condensation or water in the pump. I decided to change the fluid with synthetic power steering fluid. I have not had any problems since.

In order to replace the fluid I used a turkey baster and a synthetic PS fluid. Redline, Amsoil, and Royal Purple carry synthetic fluids that fit the bill. Using the turkey baster or a pump from a bottle of hand soap or shampoo, extract the fluid from the reservoir and refill it with fresh fluid. Next day or so do the same thing. At that time you will have changed out 95% of the fluid with little effort and no mess.
I will give this a shot, have the baster already. Thanks!

Didn't think about the water
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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When was the last time you serviced the power steering (flushed out the system)??
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 06RAM2500
When was the last time you serviced the power steering (flushed out the system)??
Prior to this, less than one year. Have the PS/VAC leak so I keep an eye on it. I sucked it all out, added a bottle, started the truck and moved wheels a bunch, drained again and re filled, should have been a complete flush. Seems to be good now.
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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The PS pump runs the brakes.......that's why hard pedal......My brother had the PS pully shear off his '03 on I-95 went to pull off ramp had to stand on brake pedal to stop her, basically you lose power brakes
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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check the level again, keep it at the upper mark, i had the same problem, added a small amount of ps fluid and fixed
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