when I sit in my truck and start it up I fell so proud to own one. Every time I look out the window I see a pretty sight. I love my truck. everything about it not just the enigne. I like how my 94 dodge steers harder than my 93 and other trucks. I like the way it sounds and rides sure some bumps hurt a little but if it want to haul most of the loads I haul then I need the truck I got. Even our 95 1ton auto gasser runs great and pulls good too nat like acummins but it gets the job done. I have pulled a 450 case dozer with both and they have always got where I needed to get. One rides a little lower but hey who gives a crap if you hit the bump stops every once and a while (3/4) I just drive dodges. maybe its because we have a great dealer and all the othe dealers sux. I usally don't even claim the 95 stroker I owned It was a PIG 180hp and no BAll$. If I hooked my 450dozer to it it would never make it up the hill that I live on now. heck even with over 350 hp my truck still knows it is there.<br>long winded I know but what can I say I like my truck wrapper engine and all<br>DM01

 

Bottom Line:

The Dodge will alway get the nod in a 3-way test. It's doing what 8 cylinder engines do with only 6.

8 Cylinder Diesels are crap.

'nuff said.

 

<br>I agree.<br>DM01

 

If I'm correct, the axles in the ferd have a shear rating of 20,000lbs where as the dodges have a 23,000lb shear rating. Got a friend of mine who has both a PSD and a Cummins. She said unloaded, the cummins was better, loaded, the PSD wins. I'm sorry though. I just don't see it. The torque of a Cummins comes in at 1400 and you don't really need to take it sky high to pull anything. My dad's 6.5L you have to take it dang near to redline to tow a 3 horse aluminum gooseneck. I've ridden in Dodge with a 6 horse gooseneck fully loaded that you never took above 2500. There was no need to. One of my buddys has a bomber Ford, and he said if it didn't cost so much bloody money, he'd put a cummins in there.

 

the 6.5 is better than the 6.2 that GM has.

 

I'll give ya that. But it still aint no Cummins.

 

6.5's and 6.2's are good for nuthin but a boat anchor

 

While on active duty every humvee and cucv had the 6.2 diesel. I think a moped is faster than those things. The 6.2 had no power whatsoever. They were horrible. The 6.5 was definately better but I do agree that it was no comparison to the 5.9.

 

not to get in a dog fight over which is best or stronger, but my 13 year old ctd will out do either one of the 3 when all are empty. it still has the puny little first gen pump on it. do not pull with it very much. heaviest load was a full size car on trailer. it would gain speed up a 7% grade. i cant compete with any of them when they are bombed, but the 2nd gen ctd should not have a problem for years to come.

 

I had a GMC 6.5 TD, and it was a good daily driver, but I wouldn't want to haul or pull anything with it. ;D I love my CTD!!!!!!

 

My 02 will definately outdo any of those as well. Before the duramax, only 1% of the people buying diesels would buy a 6.5. I still think the powerstroke is the best selling, but not the best.

 

[quote author=KC link=board=8;threadid=7357;start=30#78478 date=1039544266]<br>[quote author=Luke S link=board=8;threadid=7357;start=30#78454 date=1039541809]<br>Fords STINK. Period <br>[/quote]<br><br>Luke you will like this:<br><br>Ok from the lastest TRUCK TREND:<br><br>TT article: GCWR ford is 20,000 and Dodge 23000 both horse power and Torque number come in at lower RPMs.<br><br>In a long ford add here are some quotes:<br><br>&quot;Conventional wisdom has it that when it comes to truck engines, there is no replacement for displacement&quot; Why did they make there engine smaller?<br><br>Second &quot;Engine components are designed to achieve 250,000 mile regular service&quot;<br><br>Third GCW rating of 30,000 but max towing 13,900 pounds.<br><br>Last but not least Fords new F-650 and F-750 are avalible with Cummins ISB with 260 HP and 660 lb-ft.<br><br>KC <br>[/quote]<br><br>So what is the GCWR? 20,000 or 30,000?

 

As for the testing. Dodge and Chevy appeared to fall short of the 6.0. Who cares. They were all about equal anyhow. It all comes down to personal preference. If you really want to argue. International ,cummins ,and Isuzu diesels suck compared to CAT diesels.Cummins doesnt make 600HP and 2100 ft/lbs torque,nor does International or Isuzu,but CAT does. So stop yur snivelin' :'(

 

Diesel Tech;<br><br>Please tell me which engine CAT has that is 359 Cu In. and puts out 600 hp and 2100 ft/lbs. of torque that has not been modified. The 3126 is about 440 cu in and is strong in the both trucks and the marine industry. The 3406 E model is at 700hp big time torque but is way up there in Cu In. Cummins does make some larger engines that do what you have described that are not modified. <br><br>So, which engine is it ????<br><br><br>

 

I don't want to start a war here but, I've said it before and I'll say it again, Cat Sucks. Period.