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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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No problem. I'll answer as best as possible. 2003 was the last year of the 1.9TDi. 2004 was the 1st year of the new 1.9 and 2.0 diesel known as the Pumpe-duece. The new pumpe-dueces dont use the distributor style injection pump. The use a lift pump and each cylinder has a small pump on the injectors. I'm still learning about these engines due to the fact there not sold in Calif., but they are here. The new Pumpe-dueces, early ones have egr issues. The cooler leaks and corodes the egr valve. There are recall on the early ones for lift pump issues. The old 1.9TDi are an excellant engine. The issues with those are maf sensors, glowplug/harness issues and I've heard of some egr issues with those but have never seen one. The best place for info is the TDiclub.com. hope that helps.

P.S. They don't like Biodiesel. The Injector pumps go bad.
I agree. I had an 02 Golf manual, now an 04 Jetta auto. The 02 was cheaper to maintain and seemed to get better mileage. I was getting literally 55 MPG on the highway. We get high 40's on the highway with the Jetta. Get a pre-Pump-deusse manual and you will not regret it, especially for the girl (This is my fiance's car really but she "had" to get a diesel!). The Pump-deusses also require you to use their expensive dealer only engine oil whereas with the older ones, you can use Mobil 1 or Delvac 1.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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I agree. I had an 02 Golf manual, now an 04 Jetta auto. The 02 was cheaper to maintain and seemed to get better mileage. I was getting literally 55 MPG on the highway. We get high 40's on the highway with the Jetta. Get a pre-Pump-deusse manual and you will not regret it, especially for the girl (This is my fiance's car really but she "had" to get a diesel!). The Pump-deusses also require you to use their expensive dealer only engine oil whereas with the older ones, you can use Mobil 1 or Delvac 1.
It's taken me quite a while to get my fiance around to the idea of driving a stick again and she was NOT going to get a diesel - no way - no how.

Flash forward one week - got a job offer at a biodiesel factory

"Hmm ... I do kind of like the diesel ... so ... you think you'll get free fuel?"
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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What is the difference between the two
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by njoverkill
The Pump-deusses also require you to use their expensive dealer only engine oil whereas with the older ones, you can use Mobil 1 or Delvac 1.
Were using the Delvac 1 in the Pump-a-duese. I cant get a straight answer from my rep or vw about the contince of the 505.01 oil for these Pump-a-duese, this oil is also recommended to run in the gas Touregs? Delvac 1 is awesome oil!
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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What is the difference between the two
Read this

Originally Posted by Buckshotmckee
No problem. I'll answer as best as possible. 2003 was the last year of the 1.9TDi. 2004 was the 1st year of the new 1.9 and 2.0 diesel known as the Pumpe-duece. The new pumpe-dueces dont use the distributor style injection pump. The use a lift pump and each cylinder has a small pump on the injectors. I'm still learning about these engines due to the fact there not sold in Calif., but they are here. The new Pumpe-dueces, early ones have egr issues. The cooler leaks and corodes the egr valve. There are recall on the early ones for lift pump issues. The old 1.9TDi are an excellant engine. The issues with those are maf sensors, glowplug/harness issues and I've heard of some egr issues with those but have never seen one. The best place for info is the TDiclub.com. hope that helps.

P.S. They don't like Biodiesel. The Injector pumps go bad.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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[EDIT] that's ugly! So it's prolly a good thing I have to replace my glowplugs in the Ferd every year? LOL. Wow. Was it still running? Seems it would be awfully noisy lol.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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He drove it for a few miles before he got it towed.
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 07:36 AM
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I mean what is the difference between the grid heater and glow plugs sorry just thought you all could read my mind
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Old Nov 11, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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What?.
Its only damaged on the top.... Im sure the rest of the piston and head is just fine.

Rich
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by StevenB05
I mean what is the difference between the grid heater and glow plugs sorry just thought you all could read my mind
Glow plugs are little individual "heaters" in each cyldinder to aid in cold starting. Grid heaters are like a big heating element (like a toaster) thats in the intake instead of the cylinders.
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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glow plugs and the relays that go with them are a pain. I got so sick of them after a while with the old 7.3. After you replace the relays and plugs, the harnesses that go to the relays fry. Grid heaters here and never going back, except for the remote control truck with a glow plug.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Buckshotmckee
He drove it for a few miles before he got it towed.

Do ya think????


Wonder if he would have shut down right away whether the engine would have been saved?
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rammtuff
Do ya think????


Wonder if he would have shut down right away whether the engine would have been saved?
I doubt it, By the time he said " what was that? ", It was all over.
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