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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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Just thought I would share this with everyone. This is the engine out of 2003 Duramax in our shop. The glowplug broke off and fell down into the cylinder. The truck has 83k on it. New motor time.



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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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its amazing what a few extra pieces floating around inside a motor can do. .
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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 11:00 PM
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its amazing what a few extra pieces floating around inside a motor can do. .
That is just plain catastrophic..

It looks bad, was it under warranty?

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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 11:09 PM
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That is just plain catastrophic..

It looks bad, was it under warranty?

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Yup! Were putting a new motor in it. The whole front end is off of this truck just to get this thing out. The only things still standing are the fenders and bumper.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 05:48 AM
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Wouldn't that help with the "swirl" in the combustion chamber just like a "Tornado"?
He should have picked up 4 or 5 MPGs.

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 07:24 AM
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Shovelhead
Wouldn't that help with the "swirl" in the combustion chamber just like a "Tornado"?
He should have picked up 4 or 5 MPGs.

Makes sense to me...
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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Betcha that Durasmack was as noisy as a 2nd gen Cummins
Lucky for him it was covered under warrenty.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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hey buckshot do you work at a chevy dealer?
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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hey buckshot do you work at a chevy dealer?
Yup. Chevy, Mercedes, & VW.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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Yup. Chevy, Mercedes, & VW.

Really? Care to give me your opinion on the 1.9L TDI found in the Golf? I'm thinking very seriously about getting the little lady an 03 - 05 Golf TDI. I've yet to find any opinion other than, "Dude, it rocks" ... which is nice, but sounds a little fanboy to me.

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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Really? Care to give me your opinion on the 1.9L TDI found in the Golf? I'm thinking very seriously about getting the little lady an 03 - 05 Golf TDI. I've yet to find any opinion other than, "Dude, it rocks" ... which is nice, but sounds a little fanboy to me.

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No problem. I'll answer as best as possible. 2003 was the last year of the 1.9TDi. 2004 was the 1st year of the new 1.9 and 2.0 diesel known as the Pumpe-duece. The new pumpe-dueces dont use the distributor style injection pump. The use a lift pump and each cylinder has a small pump on the injectors. I'm still learning about these engines due to the fact there not sold in Calif., but they are here. The new Pumpe-dueces, early ones have egr issues. The cooler leaks and corodes the egr valve. There are recall on the early ones for lift pump issues. The old 1.9TDi are an excellant engine. The issues with those are maf sensors, glowplug/harness issues and I've heard of some egr issues with those but have never seen one. The best place for info is the TDiclub.com. hope that helps.

P.S. They don't like Biodiesel. The Injector pumps go bad.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckshotmckee
No problem. I'll answer as best as possible. 2003 was the last year of the 1.9TDi. 2004 was the 1st year of the new 1.9 and 2.0 diesel known as the Pumpe-duece. The new pumpe-dueces dont use the distributor style injection pump. The use a lift pump and each cylinder has a small pump on the injectors. I'm still learning about these engines due to the fact there not sold in Calif., but they are here. The new Pumpe-dueces, early ones have egr issues. The cooler leaks and corodes the egr valve. There are recall on the early ones for lift pump issues. The old 1.9TDi are an excellant engine. The issues with those are maf sensors, glowplug/harness issues and I've heard of some egr issues with those but have never seen one. The best place for info is the TDiclub.com. hope that helps.

P.S. They don't like Biodiesel. The Injector pumps go bad.
Great - thanks very much. I'll stick to the '03. Tried and true seems to be the way to go for just about anything.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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Assuming it still ran, just out of curiosity what were the symtoms?
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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Guys glow plugs or grid heaters, it really doesnt matter all that much. They both have a path if they break to enter the cylinders. Nice thing about grid heaters is that they work very well in cold conditions.
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