If you can get Bio Diesel what does it run a gallon.

I am currently paying $2.20 for dino diesel.

I think Bio Deisel makes sense or is a no brainer when it cost the same at the pump as dino diesel.

 

Bio is usually a little more expensive than Dino.
It's made in smaller batches than regular oil products.....so far.

The justification to use it is that it replaces a few gallons of foreign oil that we won't have to import.

A few here and a few there, it adds up.
And the more the demand (hopefully) the more the producers will want to expand production facilities.

 

Im for it.

I wish one of the big oil companies would get on board. The city of Denton has its own plant, but its hard to find...well i have never seen it at the pumps here in North Texas.

 

Whether it's worth it depends on how important it is to you to keep your money out of the hands of Arabs.
In Montana the price just crossed the line where 20% (B20) is the same price as regular #2, $2.54/ga. If the price of #2 keeps climbing BD will now be cheaper here.

 

so can you buy it in denton?

 

The city built the plant to produce fuel for the city fleet. Its seem to be for the city government only.

http://www.ntdaily.com/vnews/display.../424a535c12a69

 

I think the most common way to use bio-diesel is blended with with petro, typically from 2 to 20% (B2-B20). The pure bio diesel is probably going to be higher price than pertro, but when it's blended with petro at these levels it won't have much impact on the overall price, probably about as much as puttin in a fuel additive.

So why use bio at all?
Bio diesel has high lubricity and cetane, and when blended it gives this improvement to the fuel. Also lowers emissions and soot.
B100 has a higher gel temp than #2 and a few other things one should be considered if you were going to run it straight, but when blended at these low levels you should be able to use it just like #2.

 

well here in iowa it's cheaper then no.2 where i buy it,and for the last year and a half i had a surge just before hitting second gear,wierd thing is it would only do it turning left,but since using the bio my surge is gone,it runs quieter and it seems to idle smoother,i'm sold.

 

N.C. has a state subsidy so that B20 is the same price as dino diesel..

 

I am learning lots about biodiesel.

There are definately different kinds out there. Apparently the soy based biodiesel has some problems with injectors when used in a blend over 5%.

I am currently acquiring some of the papers and studies as I am also told that running 100% bio will do some breakdown on seals and rubber parts. I was told that it would take awhile for it to do this but it does happen.

Changes are happening and I want to know more.

I also learned that a Canola based bio at less then 5% nets the best mileage and lubricity improvements versus cost and theres a fine line for cetane and power gains to losses if its too much bio.

The molecular stucture of canola based bio is supposed to be optimum.

I need more knowledge.

Scotty

 

There is an added bonus with using Biodiesel, whatever plant is grown to extract the oil from, takes CO2 out of the air and converts it to oil. When you burn it of course you're putting the CO2 back out but the net effect on global warming is ZERO!

Also, it's a renewable resource which we will never run out of as long as the sun shines and we can plant the oil crops and harvest etc... Fossil oil is a finite supply which will eventually get to be more expensive than biodiesel and will eventually run out completely.

However the current estimates of natural gas deposits in deep ice is enormous and they can already synthesize diesel out of natural gas but there is still the CO2 problem. That is unless you're like me and don't believe that global warming is real.

Edwin

 

In reality, it only makes sense in blends of 5% or less if you don't want to take any chance with your warranty. As you can see, a lot of people do run larger blends or 100%. All in all, I don't see any problems as long as it is quality biodiesel.

 

I believe the warranty question was answered on another thread. There is no effect on your warranty no matter what fuel you use. There is no warranty for fuel related damage and this goes for diesel as well as biodiesel. There is only a warranty for materials and workimanship.

Edwin

 

There is maybe more volume made by people by themselves or in same groups than the large corpprate and if that continunes then we may get our democracy back I think that one of the big solutions to solving a lot of are political and economic problums are to stay away from centralization which alows for control by a few , then we are controled by multinationals with out representation or letting other people pull are chain like the middle eatern oil , oh by the way the the reply I was thinking of at the beging of this post was that you can make your own bio for about .40 a Gal. after spending $100. - 900. [depending on puting the simple equiptment together your self or buying a kit]. There is a couple in my area , I'll be going to my frist meeting tomorrow of twin cities biodiesel co-op . also check out this [ there are so many sites out there] biodiesel . org- retail fueling sites. I thought about a book I read years ago-1984,George Orwell- a frase called newspeak . redefinning history and words, the inventer of diesel engines was Roudollf Diesel [ mispelded ] and he ended up diesighning the eng. to run on vegtable oil , so that means dino oil is the alternative not biodiesel--newspeak.

 

Dream on, there are several corporate BD producers producing in excess of 50 million gallons annually each. In fact a Montana based BD outfit that produces 60 million was recently sold to a Chinese company.
Home brewed bio is a drop in the bucket.