While this would originally look like it is undyed fuel they won't fine you until they find the tracer chemical in it, so unless running the ATF is against EPA laws it doesn't matter if there is ATF in the fuel tank.

 

Not all off road fuel is high sulfur, but some of it is. High and Low sulfur off road fuels are both dyed red - it's up to the consumer to find out what they are buying.

I know fuel prices are crazy right now, but it blows my mind that people are all trying to figure out a way to cheat the system. What happened to being honest, and not stealing? Despite the fact that prices are high, buying offroad fuel for your on road truck is stealing.

 

It shouldn't blow your mind, no matter what the administration says about the "booming economic recovery" times are still tough for lots of folks. What makes it even worse and few people notice is that due to the massive deficit the value of the US dollar has declined 30% since 2001. This means that any money you have in savings, stocks, bonds etc in US dollars is a sink hole that is expected to worsen.

 

I knew it went down (really everyone else's just went up) but I didn't think it was that much. One thing for sure is MB part prices have nearly doubled in this time since the USD is so weak in comparison to the euro.

 

It blows my mind at people's dishonesty, not the fact that they would like cheaper fuel. Heck, we all would. Yes the dollar is sinking in value. Yes fuel prices are high. Does that give people the right to steal from the government that they elected? I think not.

 

It is about Honor and Integrity, you either have it or you don't.

 

Infidel, the topic is running off road fuel, don't try to divert the FACT that running off road fuel on the road is stealing by providing other examples..

 

We have clearly shown here in the past that we do NOT condone anyone breaking the law by removing their federally required Catalytic converter, by closing down those threads.

Anyone who chooses to break the law willingly, has no right to complain when they get fined having been caught while doing it.

The same goes to those who modify their engines and then try to get the dealers to warranty it after they have done so. Some people think that as long as they are saving a few cents, that it is OK to break the laws or force their misfortune onto others and thus shirking their own responsibilities.

Integrity is something you either have or you don't, I personally wont throw mine away to save a few cents on fuel nor will a lot of other people around here.

 

Well said Larry. Some folks just don't have the morals required. I sure as heck wasn't happy dropping $120 to fill my not even empty truck at $2.14 on Monday, but it wasn't driving me crazy to the point of stealing.. IMO If people truly can't afford the fuel prices today, they shouldn't own a $35K+ truck, go buy a prius.

 

Anyone notice that in Shovelhead's link 18% of the cost of diesel goes towards refining where as only 13% of gasoline goes towards refining?

I thought diesel was cheaper to refine

 

Reposted so you don't have to look for it.

 

well it has been about a month now and i have seen no fine i guess it was the bio i was running. im glad too i cant afford the fine. this has been a long thread intresting as well

 

My truck was 14k , not 35k. The goverment sees fit to make me drive an extra 120 miles because my lenght is over 26ft? For safty reasons.....due to terrorism.

Even though a search can easily see, Im completely empty. Although the search of the trailer is easy, they don t even look in the truck? Hmmmm safty is the concern , and I could load my interior up with explosives easily but the trailer is the dangerous part because its over 26 ft? Hmmmm, no matter how I look at it its red tape.

What about the 30000 atvs thanks giving day week end at the dunes....most of which are 4 strokes now using pump gas.....operating off road? HMmmm any chance of getting a refund? How about the boats that frequant the lakes? Hmmmm ?

Bummer, in the west we don t even have red , I ve never seen it anyways, not once at a station. I guess that solves the problem, we don t have it available so its not really an issue. I know construction equip uses it, but Ive never seen one back hoe , or blade operator pulled over.....although I m slowed down by them on a dailey basis for them driving to a job site.

HHHmmmmm.........me thinks its based on money, not morals, integrity, safty, roads, or anything else.....just money which at some point gets to who wants it the worst.

 

thats because in Canada the Government takes care of the people (babysits) and everything is socialized

 

2.60 a gallon? you guys are lucky, I am getting the shaft at 3.49 a gallon here.