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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 12:25 PM
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Quality of turbos on Ebay

There are some cheap HX35 turbos on ebay.... $299.00
china made...
I am thinking of buying one....
anyone out there use these at all???
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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Considering the heat and stress these turbos take on a Cummins and the amount of damage they can do on down the line when one lets go, no way would I put that Chinese junk on my engine.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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I wouldn't trust it.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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I would rather get a used one for that price than a knockoff.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Lil Dog
I would rather get a used one for that price than a knockoff.
who's to say the ones from Chrysler are not made in china?
China has come a long way in quality.
The ones on ebay come with a 3 month warranty.
I doubt the company that builds these turbos are going to go through all the trouble of manufacturing and then stop short on quality.
just my opinion.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GCSS
who's to say the ones from Chrysler are not made in china?
China has come a long way in quality.
The ones on ebay come with a 3 month warranty.
I doubt the company that builds these turbos are going to go through all the trouble of manufacturing and then stop short on quality.
just my opinion.
Go for it! You asked our opinions so we told you, no skin off our noses when that thing pumps oil and pieces of hot metal through your intake

I get emails from multiple Chinese company's wanting me to sell their junk turbos like that in the store every week....... No thanks, I don't want the head aches that go along with dealing with irate customers and multiple returns

Of course being able to buy turbos like the one you listed for $135.00 dollars does sound like a good deal until you think about the junk steel they use in them.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Lary Ellis (Top)
Go for it! You asked our opinions so we told you, no skin off our noses when that thing pumps oil and pieces of hot metal through your intake

I get emails from multiple Chinese company's wanting me to sell their junk turbos like that in the store every week....... No thanks, I don't want the head aches that go along with dealing with irate customers and multiple returns

Of course being able to buy turbos like the one you listed for $135.00 dollars does sound like a good deal until you think about the junk steel they use in them.
well now we have the opinions from the ones who SELL turbos,now I would like opinions from those who buy them!
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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Aside from turbos, I work for a processing and manufacturing company, and it is cheaper for us to send our equipment blue prints to china, have them build a piece of junk, then us fly over there and make changes, fly home, fly back a month later and test the new unit. Often we have the machine made 2-3 times, and with traveling around the world a few times, it is still cheaper to have them make it, than build one unit in the US.

Long story short...I work for a very large company, and they are willing to sell us junk, so why would they not try to sell you junk?

Just my $0.02
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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well now we have the opinions from the ones who SELL turbos,now I would like opinions from those who buy them!
In order to Sell Turbos, I have to BUY them first

Which means I get to see the best and the worst of them, like that Junk you were asking about
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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Remember the old saying????.......You get what you pay for..........
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 03:56 PM
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While it is not my experience, I have watched a couple of trucks at the shop come and go with these turbos. The first one did not blow up, but it certainly did not perform anywhere close to the same as the same (real deal) unit purchased through PDR 5 years and 75k miles ago. You could tell from spool time, egts, boost and power. It simply was not nearly the same air and just a subjective WAG was about 20% less. The second turbo lasted 1500 miles before the turbine wheel grenaded.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 07:39 PM
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I have a friend in Perth, Australia who has dealt in const. equipment all his life. Here is an opinion he made on another BB a few weeks ago in a similar discussion. Something to think about.

The greatest single problem with Chinese manufacturing is the Asian desire for absolute cheapness in everything they do. They do not believe in .. neither will they support .. QUALITY .. in anything they touch.
You see this in everything that Asians sell. They are only interested in QUANTITY, not QUALITY.

To produce quality from an Asian manufacturing operation, there is a need for constant and unrelenting supervision by Western company executives to ensure that quality and standards are being met, as specified by the design engineers and buyers. In manufacturing, this Asian problem is known as "Quality Fade".

The Chinese will produce the first example of what the buyer orders, at the required standard of finish, and material quality .. but when it comes to full production .. cheaper materials are substituted .. finished product standards are allowed to slip .. and the product then becomes a problem to the buyer .. as the customer then becomes the companies QC dept .. as the customers discard item after item .. because the item no longer does the job for which it was designed to do, or fails on a regular basis.

The Chinese will eventually learn that there are quality standards that must be adhered to, if they want to equal the West. How long that takes, is anyone's guess.
They do not currently understand that numerous products require a high level of quality that cannot be reduced, just to improve their profits. I have not yet seen Chinese Caterpillar parts that have fallen prey to this bogey, but no doubt it will come. Cat QC is world class, but it needs unrelenting efforts to ensure that Chinese factories making Cat parts don't fall prey to "Quality Fade".

I note that Cat are reluctant to introduce Chinese-built Cats to the Western world, and are just "placing a toe in the water", with the gradual introduction of some Chinese-sourced Cat parts to Western buyers.
Perkins have found out all about the pitfalls of Chinese manufacturing .. with a sizable amount of unauthorized, and poor-quality Perkins engines and parts, now reaching the Western world and creating huge problems for Perkins. This was due to outright fraud on the part of the Chinese partners, and a typical "Quality Fade" problem resulted.


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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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Here is something I learned the hard way...

the bitterness of poor quality long outlasts the sweetness of low price
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by GCSS
well now we have the opinions from the ones who SELL turbos,now I would like opinions from those who buy them!
I don't think you are going to find many people on this website who are going to buy a turbo for their Cummins powered truck that is made in China.

Lary is one of the last people who would ever sell somebody some junk and put his name on it, and soulezoo is one of the first people I would ask questions about turbo's to.

Take it for what it's worth.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 08:46 PM
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lol, i just lost my job because of this very thing. anyone know why the best building block for a performance 5.9 build is a pre 98 block? because the 12v blocks where casted here in indy at indianapolis casting corp. way stronger block and the quality was much better. but when u can pay a guy $5.00 a day and put all kinds of pollutants in the air, they can afford to trash 30% of what they make as compaired to the 6% made in the good old US. companys are just to greedy to pay a guy for an honest days work in the us.
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