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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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Had a great day yesterday. Got a new job at the local International dealership. Was cookin good at 9.50 a hour. (totally aware thats not good, but for no experience and no graduation from my tech school i was happy) Guy workin there started in November at 9/HR went in and wanted a raise. Dunno if he got his raise but they called me and dropped me back to 9/hr, after hiring me at 9.50, other than the initional What would be some logical ways to go about getting that wage back?

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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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I'd be a little concerned that your employer isn't willing to pay you the wage they negotiated. Is this really where you want to work? If you're staying there, I'm convinced that the secret to success at any low-level job is this: you can be better than 95% of your co-workers just by showing up and acting like you give a <bleep>. Be early every day, and don't rush out the door the second your shift is over. Do careful and competent work. Don't be a whiner. Don't steal stuff. Unless your boss is an idiot, you will be promoted.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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I would start with setting down and talking it out first. As that is not a standard practice ie. lowering after hiring. I will say that wannadiesel hit it on the head, I have worked and employed over 300 employees over the last few years and the ones that just show up on time and not miss work except for scheduled time off is way ahead of most other fellows. I would work a guy and pay him more if he did everything that was stated above even if he was not as good as some of the ones that are late and miss work and do care. Goodluck, go talk and find out why,if you listen to wannadiesel you will get promotions and raises ahead of most guys out there. Goodluck,, again, Rick
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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If the guy went in and asked for a raise, and they call you in and busted you back to $9.00 hr, sounds like "someone" doesn't know to keep their peep shut about how much you make. Another rule is when someone ask what you're making, always say "not enough" and leave it at that. Maybe the guy that hired you saw something in you that he didn't see in the other guy and that's why he gave you $9.50, but there again, maybe someone proved him wrong.
Don't mean to bust your stones, but unless you have it in writing, suck it up and go on, if in writing and you push it, you'll most likely be fired after you get it back, and dittos to what wannadiesel said.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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All three of the above are EXCELLENT advice. Follow what these guys say and you will do great. Prove you can do the job and you will get that $ .50 back (and more) in no time.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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also remember if u do decide to approach the higher ups and try to get the .50 back ...... do it in a porfessional manner. it would be really easy for them to decide its time to cut back. approach them professionally and im sure u can work something out. maybe a 30 day period. if its a job u really like and a company that seems to be good to work for just be patient, do your job, and you will get it back and more. i went through a situation something like thias and it worked out great for me. good luck, scott
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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So....what will you do if they call you in next week and cut your salary another .50 an hour? I agree with all of the postings with regard to hard work and honesty will usually be awarded. I also believe that you need to find out why the pay cut? As was mentioned, question the cut in a calm, courteous, non-agressive and mature manner. You need to know if your employer and you are on the same page. If you're not, then you need to decide if you like the page your employer is on or maybe you need to think about a new chapter in your life....Oh, and like PD said above.....the only ones who need to know how much you make is you, your employer, and the good Lord above!!!
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 10:03 PM
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I think BigBlackDodge is joking.

Never sit down on the job unless it is break time. If you decide to stay with this job, give them your best and do as the previous guys have stated. As a manager I have had to make many decisions as to who got raises, promotions and who got fired. The workers who cared, even though they might not be the smartest, got the raises. Keep your pay $$ to your self!

Good Luck!!!
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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One of the carpenters I'm working with says half the time it's hard enough just to find somebody who will even SHOW up for work! Never ever show up drunk or hungover...that leaves a bad taste in an employer's mouth...not to mention you stink like alcohol and can't do anything right.
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 11:48 AM
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There until someone else comes around

well, went in talked to him today here. bad news is no budge, what had happened is that when my diesel instructor and I were talkin about it. (helped me get the job) he also helped the classmate get the job earlier. The CLassmate overhearded the coversation and went in bitchin to the boss. And so for all fairness they dropped me back. I threw a couple ideas or agreements back at him . First i was like true that might not be fair for them but also isnt really fair on my behalf to drop the wages, so then i ran the probationary period by him. no go. Im like well make all sides happy give him 25 cent and ill drop mine 25 cents and like will be good, no go there. No Bennies since im Part ime. So i just got my you know what rapped.
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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Chalk it up as experience, and use the opportunity to gain some on the job training.

That way, when you're looking at somewhere else to work in a couple of months that'll pay better, you'll have some experience at the old place to use on your resume.

AND go back to school nights to graduate!
You can't get anywhere these days money wise without an education.
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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Yeah, thats what i figured, as far as base pay im makin the same i did at my old job. But at the other place.. it was sales so i got 7 hr + commission + daily contest. So id make 14 or so a hr haha. but then that contest cash was taxes at 42% But it is a good place to work, just...now i have a better insight to what they are all about.
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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Four subjects to never discuss on the job.
Pay.
Politics.
Religion.
Sex.
If these cans of worms ever get opened up, there will always be problems, sooner or later.

Advice from this old man with 44 years of experience in the work force.
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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i think you did good, if you went in & spoke to him in an intelligent manner, offered options, and listened to his reasons, and agreed to stay on at his wage.

i'd say right now, he's thinking you got your head on straight, and you & him can work around any future situations, so i think you earned some trust & respect. that will become pay soon enough.

not many of the young kids could do what you did, if you did it right, good job.
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