Nicholas

Greetings everyone,<br><br>Would anyone know if it is possible to create a &quot;mechcanical&quot; version of the Cummins ISB engine to fit in a 1st Gen.? (Example: fitting a complete 24-Valve ISB head, ISB pistions, etc. to a 12-valve engine block.) <br><br>If my memory serves me, I thought I read something a while back about a conversion like this. I can't remember where I read about this TDR or DTR, or who the author was. Maybe I misunderstood something too.<br><br>I was also told by a Cummins representative that the true ISB engine could not be fitted into a 1st. Gen. due to having no provisions for the ECM/PCM.<br><br>If someone could shed some light on this subject it would be greatly appreciated.<br><br>Thank you,<br><br>Nicholas R. Gajewski

DieselDaze

I dont have an answer for your queston, but I cant help to wonder if it wouldnt be easier to just replace the entire engine with a long block 24v?<br>Im not sure how all the electronics would work out... or even if you could put the p7 pump on a 24v in a 1st gen truck? <br><br>Ive also thought about this... p7 pump on a 24v in a 1st gen truck. <br>Either way, would this be a cheaper option than replacing internal engine components?<br>I dont know.<br><br>Rich.

tmiller24

I believe the guys with the dragster have a P7100 on a 24v. Pictures of it used to be in the photo section.

Luke S

Ya there is a company that will put the P7100 on a 24-valve, I forget who it is??? It would cost a bunch of JACK though$$$$

Jetpilot

Piers Diesel Research does the p-pump conversion for the 24v engine....<br><br>Doug

banshee

As does Scheid Diesel.... They have had a P-pumped 24V for a long time now. The other option is to put a 24V head on a 12V block with, of course, the P-pump. This would be, imo, a better option for a racing style motor as there are so many more options for bottom end parts for the B blocks.

Ramflasher

I think Diesel Dynamics has done a few trucks with the P7100 pump on a 24 valve, also.

nascar mark

[quote author=Nicholas link=board=8;threadid=12529;start=0#118453 date=1048188284]<br>Greetings everyone,<br><br>Would anyone know if it is possible to create a &quot;mechcanical&quot; version of the Cummins ISB engine to fit in a 1st Gen.? (Example: fitting a complete 24-Valve ISB head, ISB pistions, etc. to a 12-valve engine block.) <br><br>If my memory serves me, I thought I read something a while back about a conversion like this. I can't remember where I read about this TDR or DTR, or who the author was. Maybe I misunderstood something too.<br><br>I was also told by a Cummins representative that the true ISB engine could not be fitted into a 1st. Gen. due to having no provisions for the ECM/PCM.<br><br>If someone could shed some light on this subject it would be greatly appreciated.<br><br>Thank you,<br><br>Nicholas R. Gajewski<br>[/quote]<br><br>Nicholas,<br>I would be the one you are referring too. Yes it is possible and that is what I am doing to my truck. I posted awhile back that I was building my 1st gen with a PDR - P7100 STUPID pump, 24v head, special pistons, full load, etc.... We are doing the PDR-P7100 STUPID pump convertion on Jetpilots truck as we speak....As if it wasn't fast anough

Jetpilot

One can never have too much speed ;D ;D ;D

PourinDiesel

A shop in town has installed 2 electronic ISB's in Ford F-series pickups.<br><br>--Justin

BigBlue

What all is required to swap in a P-pump on a 24 valve? Can you install governor springs in it afterwards?

TxDieselKid

[quote author=BigBlue link=board=8;threadid=12529;start=0#121018 date=1048784057]<br>What all is required to swap in a P-pump on a 24 valve? Can you install governor springs in it afterwards?<br>[/quote]<br><br>LOTS is required for this. Last I heard Piers charges 50 hours of labor. Of course his work is untouchable. <br><br>Schieds told a friend of mine that they no longer do this conversion due to emmissions.<br><br>As for your question, yes there would be governor springs in it, as it would have the p-7100 pump on it. 8)<br><br>It is something I would love todo, but can't afford to at the moment. :<br><br>Andrew

BigBlue

Cool. How's the truck coming along?

TxDieselKid

Just waiting for the parts to get off of backorder! ;D