How does MPG change from tire size?
I have larger tires on my truck, and used http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalcold.html to see the % change. From what I gather, when the speedo says I am running 60mph, I am going faster by around 8%. That makes sense.. But my poor brain is hurting.
The truck reports that over the last 1000ish miles, I averaged 17.1 mpg. So, given the correction, would the actual mileage be as indicated, 18.2, or around 16?
The truck reports that over the last 1000ish miles, I averaged 17.1 mpg. So, given the correction, would the actual mileage be as indicated, 18.2, or around 16?
generally larger tires are wider too. this increases rolling resistance, which means less mileage. part of this is off-set by higher gearing of taller tires, which means lower RPM.
best for mileage is a tall skinnier tire like 2.35-85R-16's profile
best for mileage is a tall skinnier tire like 2.35-85R-16's profile
2500 nailed it. Even better for mileage would be a taller, skiiny really hard tire like you get from 19.5s-- but they are so heavy that the mpg you'd get on paper gets eaten up in the real world.
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Teke,
After you correct for the additional mileage, by adding miles to the total your odometer shows, your mileage will be appear higher than it was before adding those miles. But that does not mean it is higher than what you'd be getting with stock tires. With bigger tires you have more rolling resistance, more mass to spin up and more wind resistance. So any improvement you might be looking for with lower RPM will have to make up for those problems before it can produce a net improvement. Higher gearing does not automatically mean better mileage. Appropriate gearing for the conditions you are driving in is what is best.
You're probably getting 1-2 MPG less overall with the bigger tires. Once you know exactly what the true miles traveled is, you can hand calc with the fuel used and correct for the overhead error. My overhead, even though my odo is correct, reads about 1.5 MPG high. So now I just look at it and reduce it's reading by that much for a rough estimate of mileage. I use it for trends and general mileage info like trips vs city vs towing, etc.
As stated earlier, tall and narrow radial tires will have the lowest resistance but don't make the mistake of thinking a 5% taller tire means a 5% improvement in mileage. It doesn't.
After you correct for the additional mileage, by adding miles to the total your odometer shows, your mileage will be appear higher than it was before adding those miles. But that does not mean it is higher than what you'd be getting with stock tires. With bigger tires you have more rolling resistance, more mass to spin up and more wind resistance. So any improvement you might be looking for with lower RPM will have to make up for those problems before it can produce a net improvement. Higher gearing does not automatically mean better mileage. Appropriate gearing for the conditions you are driving in is what is best.
You're probably getting 1-2 MPG less overall with the bigger tires. Once you know exactly what the true miles traveled is, you can hand calc with the fuel used and correct for the overhead error. My overhead, even though my odo is correct, reads about 1.5 MPG high. So now I just look at it and reduce it's reading by that much for a rough estimate of mileage. I use it for trends and general mileage info like trips vs city vs towing, etc.
As stated earlier, tall and narrow radial tires will have the lowest resistance but don't make the mistake of thinking a 5% taller tire means a 5% improvement in mileage. It doesn't.
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But the OP said that he calculated 17.1 mpg. So that means that he actually got a little better mileage than that because the bigger tires go a longer distance with each rotation. Yes, maybe he lost some mpg by going to a bigger tire, but nonetheless he DID calculate 17.1.
Putting a 19.5 setup on adds alot of rotating mass. That affects acceleration, braking and suspension.
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But the OP said that he calculated 17.1 mpg. So that means that he actually got a little better mileage than that because the bigger tires go a longer distance with each rotation. Yes, maybe he lost some mpg by going to a bigger tire, but nonetheless he DID calculate 17.1.
He'll have to know the true miles travelled and the fuel used before he can calc an accuratre number.
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