General Diesel Discussion Talk about general diesel engines (theory, etc.) If it's about diesel, and it doesn't fit anywhere else, then put it right in here.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

engine oil questions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 09:48 PM
  #16  
Scubasteve's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 414
Likes: 0
From: Ontario,Canada
I use the 0w40 ROT T in my quad during the winter.

I wouldn't use the stuff in my truck unless it was -40 all the time.

There are alot of good lubes out there, biggest thing is to change the oil on a regualr basis and don't forget to use a good filter or it will all be in vein when the filter falls apart..

Fleetguard for me..


Jason
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 11:08 PM
  #17  
Dr. Evil's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,129
Likes: 0
From: The Great White North
Originally posted by Scubasteve


I wouldn't use the stuff in my truck unless it was -40 all the time.

Why?? Its 0W40
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 09:24 AM
  #18  
infidel's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 14,672
Likes: 9
From: Montana
Originally posted by Dr. Evil
Why?? Its 0W40
It's a well proven fact that an oil with a viscosity spread of over 25 points breaks down on the high end much faster. In other words your 0w40 will end up becoming a 0w25 before you want it to.
You're much better off using a 15w40 unless you live in the artic.
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 10:08 AM
  #19  
RowJ's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,234
Likes: 1
From: Texas/Oklahoma Border
Originally posted by infidel
It's a well proven fact that an oil with a viscosity spread of over 25 points breaks down on the high end much faster. In other words your 0w40 will end up becoming a 0w25 before you want it to.
I know this use to be true....have not seen recent test results so don't know....may still be so.

Either way...it takes a lot more V.I. (Viscosity Improver) to spread the numbers so far apart....so you end up with less base oil/additives...unless someone figured out how to get more than 32 oz. in a quart? So you still end up with an oil that doesn't last as long or protect as well.

As Infidel said....better and longer protection if you stay within 25 point spread.

RJ
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 10:21 AM
  #20  
RowJ's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,234
Likes: 1
From: Texas/Oklahoma Border
Originally posted by Dr. Evil
...it is a Group IV synthetic meaning that it is 100% synthetic (which makes it virtually the same as Mobile 1...
FYI - Mobile I is no longer a straight Group IV oil (PAO base oil). The new Tri-Base Oil, or whatever they call it, is now a combination of Groups III, IV and V. Marketed as an upgrade... but racers tell me they see poorer results in terms of more internal wear to moving parts. Having to replace bearings, etc. more frequently.
The fact that it now contains Group III, to help hold down costs, comes from a Mobil employee. The reports from racers are all hear-say....as I have never tested or used the newer Mobil I!

RJ
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 07:55 PM
  #21  
Dr. Evil's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,129
Likes: 0
From: The Great White North
Originally posted by rjohnson
FYI - Mobile I is no longer a straight Group IV oil (PAO base oil).
Whoa...when did this happen??? Thats news to me. Thanks - guess I can quit spreading misinformation... . Why do they always change anything thats good?
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 07:58 PM
  #22  
Dr. Evil's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,129
Likes: 0
From: The Great White North
Originally posted by infidel
It's a well proven fact that an oil with a viscosity spread of over 25 points breaks down on the high end much faster. In other words your 0w40 will end up becoming a 0w25 before you want it to.
You're much better off using a 15w40 unless you live in the artic.
Well, I just about live in the Artic...

I did not know that the 0W40 would break down faster than the 15W40.....interesting.

I know this has been discussed before - any problems switching back and forth between dino oil and syn?? I really need the syn in the winter. I currently do this and have noticed some oil leaks but I dont think they are from changing oils.

Thx Bill !!!
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 08:41 PM
  #23  
JKM's Avatar
JKM
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,668
Likes: 0
From: SunnyVale Trailer Park
I would imagine it is available in 22L pails, and i intend to find out , they have rotella T in 22L pails, why not get XD-3?
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 09:00 PM
  #24  
Scubasteve's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 414
Likes: 0
From: Ontario,Canada
Originally posted by infidel
It's a well proven fact that an oil with a viscosity spread of over 25 points breaks down on the high end much faster. In other words your 0w40 will end up becoming a 0w25 before you want it to.
You're much better off using a 15w40 unless you live in the artic.

That pretty much sums it up..

If you look in the owners manual it will give you a range at which certain oils will run in your vehicle. It is true that the synthetics will run out of this range but only so far.

I still run Dino oils as I see very little advantage in running the expensive synthetic oils since they dont stay in the pan for more than 8 weeks at a time.

In the winter I use ROT T 10w30 and have done that in both my trucks since I had them with no troubles.

Even the 10w30 can be run in fairly far into the nice weather without any trouble.


Jason
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 10:11 PM
  #25  
Dr. Evil's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,129
Likes: 0
From: The Great White North
the only problem is I see -30 to -40 temps....syn is pretty much necessary
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2005 | 12:11 AM
  #26  
TORQUE's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 436
Likes: 0
Agreed, synthetic in this part is darn near mandatory(-30 to -40 also) , unless truck is plugged in all the timeMine starts instantly in winter with Mobil 1 10w30(even without being plugged in), less clatter, instant oil pressure, and less wear on internals of engine, as most engine wear is in first minute of startup.

Follow manual with your temp. range to determine viscosity of oil required. Syn or dino your call, both work good in certain applications. You pick which one suits you best based on oil change intervals, hiway vs. city(stopngo), idling, towing, etc.. If you don't tow in winter, viscosity spread break down ( 25 points as Infidel, and rjohnson stated) is not near as critical though, as you may not require 40w rating protection.
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2005 | 07:26 AM
  #27  
Dr. Evil's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,129
Likes: 0
From: The Great White North
Originally posted by TORQUE
f you don't tow in winter, viscosity spread break down ( 25 points as Infidel, and rjohnson stated) is not near as critical though, as you may not require 40w rating protection.
HUh?
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2005 | 11:24 AM
  #28  
infidel's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 14,672
Likes: 9
From: Montana
Originally posted by Dr. Evil
HUh?
What Torque is saying is you won't need 40w oil when the temps are low.
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2005 | 01:06 PM
  #29  
Dr. Evil's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,129
Likes: 0
From: The Great White North
of course...was early when I read that
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ClassA4x4
1st Gen. Ram - All Topics
23
May 16, 2013 11:49 AM
IPDiesel
3rd Gen Engine and Drivetrain -> 2003-2007
1
Dec 29, 2010 09:21 AM
rufushusky
3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only)
12
May 10, 2009 12:41 PM
realoldandcrust
3rd Gen Engine and Drivetrain -> 2007 and up
10
Feb 14, 2008 09:53 AM
rico334
3rd Gen Engine and Drivetrain -> 2003-2007
5
Jan 3, 2005 08:10 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:50 PM.