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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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Comparison costs between diesels and hybrids

Decided to post an interesting article comparing costs between hybrids and diesels. Wadda y'all thunk eh?

http://www.homepower.com/files/featu...sVsDiesels.pdf
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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If only they made a diesel hybrid. I can see 70 mpg!
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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vw makes a 3 cyl diesel hybrid called the luppo(spelled right i think). but it's not for sale here in the us.... go figure.
i'd love to have one, then i'd use my bio in it. but for now my gas hybrid will have to do.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 11:14 PM
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Friend put a 3 cylinder (I want to say Kubota) diesel into a Triump Spitfire back in the late 60's.(It was a Popular Mechanics project). Bolted up with min. fuss. Was slow to accelerate, but he got 65 MPG highway. Used it as his commuter car in Ca.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 01:48 PM
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Drove by a dealer in another state and spotted what appeared to be a Grand Cherokee diesel for 08. But, if the mpg isn't better than the Liberty, what's the point? Has anyone seen a diesel VW Toureg?
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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Drove by a dealer in another state and spotted what appeared to be a Grand Cherokee diesel for 08. But, if the mpg isn't better than the Liberty, what's the point? Has anyone seen a diesel VW Toureg?
The point is the Liberty had an Italian engine that could no longer meet emissions standards . The Grand Cherokee has a Mercedes BlueTech engine .
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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If only they made a diesel hybrid. I can see 70 mpg!
Gee , I wonder what happened to this . http://www.allpar.com/model/ram/special-rams.html
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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I wonder what happened to this in the US.

Diamler/Chrysler Smart Car....

From what I've read, they're available overseas, and get over 50 mpg.

Not what I'd want to take a long trip in, but as a 'round-town ride, it would be sweet.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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Questionable report claims Hummer is greener than Prius - Engadget

http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/24/q...er-than-prius/

CNW Marketing stated that GM's gas guzzler only cost about $1.95 per mile to put on the road, while the Prius rang up $3.25 per mile in order to hit the pavement. Reportedly, these zany numbers include all production costs -- which supposedly run around 50-percent higher on the hybrid -- bu
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Shovelhead
I wonder what happened to this in the US.

Diamler/Chrysler Smart Car....

From what I've read, they're available overseas, and get over 50 mpg.

Not what I'd want to take a long trip in, but as a 'round-town ride, it would be sweet.
Hey , one of these passed me going South on I-69 in Michigan last Thursday . I'm positive it was a Smart car . The thing was doing 70 m.p.h. + passing everything in sight . The driver had to be suicidal .
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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I have a friend in Canada who owns a Smart Car. I wouldn't want to be in an accident in one of those. But the fuel economy is awesome.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by induchman
Drove by a dealer in another state and spotted what appeared to be a Grand Cherokee diesel for 08. But, if the mpg isn't better than the Liberty, what's the point? Has anyone seen a diesel VW Toureg?
I saw a diesel Toureg when I was up in Sequoia National Park a few weeks ago.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by biododge1
vw makes a 3 cyl diesel hybrid called the luppo(spelled right i think). but it's not for sale here in the us.... go figure.
i'd love to have one, then i'd use my bio in it. but for now my gas hybrid will have to do.
I looked up the Lupo, apparently it gets 78 mpg! It's just that here in America everyone is used to big cars. Even our smallest cars like the Toyota Prius or Honda Civic are considered "big" compared to European standards.
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 01:22 AM
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I looked up the Lupo, apparently it gets 78 mpg! It's just that here in America everyone is used to big cars. Even our smallest cars like the Toyota Prius or Honda Civic are considered "big" compared to European standards.
i have the insight, 87mpg is my best sustained mpg. whats great about the lupo is that with a few mods i think that 100mpg would be attainable
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 02:52 AM
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article uses misleading mileage figures for jetta TDI. folks on TDI forums routinely report 50 mpg. they've also got mistakes on liberty payback length.
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