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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by taildragger
IMHO, the diesel engine is still a far better design, its just not popular here in the US. If we started putting the kind of research into diesels thats have been put into gassers over the last 20 years, we'd have some ridiculously nice diesels that get phenomenal mileage. With Audi racing a diesel now, and VW bringing in the Jetta and Golf TDI's, I have faith that diesel will be back at the top again, and if they mated a hybrid to a diesel, o yay, that would be amazing.
Europe has a huge diesel car market. People in America want speed, low maintenance, and comfort. Hence, the popularity of gassers.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 06:47 AM
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Gassers are slowly changing over to diesel. Car diesel is almost nonexistent due to EPA guidelines which have now somewhat changed. New diesel cars are on the drawing boards and in testing that will hit the salesrooms in the next few years. I don't know if a niche market will form or if diesels will hit it big. I think that will be determined by the regulations and the differential price of operating versus gas. A small savings will make a small market....

In Europe where close to half of the car market is diesel they have made the cost of fuel lower than gas. That along with the savings due to burning less fuel per mile with diesel they are lowering their use of fuel. I think that in the future other fuels will find their way into use and diesel will take a back seat again but for now diesel versus gas is an obvious solution for lowering the fuel usage. Why the US does not take advantage is beyond me. Lowering the taxes on diesel and raising gas taxes to make up the difference would provide and incentive for diesels and save the country on imports. Its just good sense.


I know I know, the pollution thing but with ULSD the difference between gas and diesel are close enough that diesel fuel should still be used more.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dspencer
Gassers are slowly changing over to diesel. Car diesel is almost nonexistent due to EPA guidelines which have now somewhat changed. New diesel cars are on the drawing boards and in testing that will hit the salesrooms in the next few years. I don't know if a niche market will form or if diesels will hit it big. I think that will be determined by the regulations and the differential price of operating versus gas. A small savings will make a small market....

In Europe where close to half of the car market is diesel they have made the cost of fuel lower than gas. That along with the savings due to burning less fuel per mile with diesel they are lowering their use of fuel. I think that in the future other fuels will find their way into use and diesel will take a back seat again but for now diesel versus gas is an obvious solution for lowering the fuel usage. Why the US does not take advantage is beyond me. Lowering the taxes on diesel and raising gas taxes to make up the difference would provide and incentive for diesels and save the country on imports. Its just good sense.


I know I know, the pollution thing but with ULSD the difference between gas and diesel are close enough that diesel fuel should still be used more.
Not because I'm a fan of diesel do I think this, but I really see Diesel as becoming a more prominent fuel for everyday cars. Emmission seems to be the driving force of changes in vehicles, and diesels have been making the same emissions as gassers for the last 20 years, as the new ones make today, practically. On top of it, diesel is cheaper to make, overall. Whats amusing about the hybrids, it actually takes more fuel to make the cars, than gasser or diesel cars, therefore defeating the purpose almost.

I'm ready for the day, when we don't have to worry about accidently filling up with gas (well worrying that the wife will do that), because diesel is the norm.
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