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Has anyone used it? Is it expensive? Does it smell like french fries cooking ???
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Never tried it. What does it consist of? Can these trucks operate with it safely?
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Jack,<br><br>The link below gives more info than I can. I did a forum search here and found no references to it so I just wondered if anyone had any experience with it.<br><br>Biodiesel Information<br><br>Regards,<br>Gary<br>
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Thanks for the website Rattlin Ram.. very interesting, very interesting...<br><br>the site mentioned that the biodiesel met some ATSM specification (or some other initials).. does that spec meet D/C specificiations as well?? <br><br>I know the 12V could/would run on just about any distillate.. the 24V had a much smaller list of 'alternative' (as in the aviation/jet/kero) fuels due to the fuel pump needing to be lubed..<br><br>just wondering..
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[quote author=thatguy <br><br>I know the 12V could/would run on just about any distillate.. <br><br>
<br><br>Hides those quart jars of...errrr.... furniture polish I had stuck back in the cabinet ;D
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If it's just the fact that the VP44 needs lubrication.<br>You should be able to run a 24V on anything the 12V could, just add a quart of engine oil with every fill up.<br><br>Or some of the snake oil fuel additives that lubricate. :-X<br><br><br>phox
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After posting the topic, I went on a little biodiesel search. I found this site. I found it very interesting. It may not be very practical yet but it makes for some interesting reading.
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Lots of info. Looks pretty scary though. I wonder how long an engine would last with that. Has anyone tried it?
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I did some research on this last year and found that the typical biodiesel fuel was a 80%dino/20% biodiesel mix. The biodiesel has a little less btu content, so I couldn't get the company to switch over (6 4300hp Alcos emergency generators with tankage barely adaquate), and lost interest. Still a little more expensive than dino diesel, but is starting to become available in S.F. and L.A.<br>It's possible to make your own but I'm not up to it. Would look pretty hard at the VP44 specs. Greg
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I saw a Shell station in Portland OR advertising Bio-diesel for $1.759 per gallon. Regular diesel is running about 35 to 40 cents cheaper depending on where you go. <br>Bob
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Farmers are using it around here...... Eastern Va.
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[quote author=phox_mulder link=board=8;threadid=5566;start=0#49623 date=1034041743]<br>If it's just the fact that the VP44 needs lubrication.<br>You should be able to run a 24V on anything the 12V could, just add a quart of engine oil with every fill up.<br><br>Or some of the snake oil fuel additives that lubricate. :-X<br><br><br>phox<br>[/quote]<br>As a matter of fact, I've read that some guys are doing just that, adding a quart of synthetic, low ash, 2 cycle motor oil at each fill-up.<br><br>-Tom-
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Over here biodiesel is a tad cheaper than regular. I use up to 80% bio in summer, up to 60% in winter. Due to higher cetane numbers you have to retard timing a bit. Due to the higher lubricity and the higher viscosity of bio the VP44 runs almost silent. You have to up fuel pressure to achieve a good filling of the pump element at WOT at high RPM.
I've been driving the RAM for about 50k miles on these mixtures.

Warning- there is almost no possibility to produuce black smoke if you have a high % of bio. EGTs are actually lower if you have the timing set right. Fuel consumption is a tad higher ( lower energy content)

Edit- the smell depends on what is used to produce the biodiesel- If its used cooking oil you smell the steaks, fries or whatever. If new plant oils are used the smell is less than on regular diesel.


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used cooking oil. dam, i wouldn't mind it smelling like steak and lobster . only problem here in the granola state is some freak in san francisco would be trying to drink it .
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