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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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I always just thought it was the easiest to use a Mopar or a Fleetgaurd and then I didn't have to worry about filters failure's taking out the engine. These trucks cost so much, I have never been concerned about saving $3 or $4 bucks on a filter when it was just easier to use o.e.m. and not have any trouble.
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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Truck Pro sells Baldwin filters. I usually use Fleetguard or Wix (NAPA) I've been running a NAPA fuel filter without the WIF sender port in the bottom. It is a little cheaper, easier to find and my message center is inop anyway. I change mine every other oil change and never see any signs of water in them.
Baldwin is a good filter as is Wix. We run the Wix in our fleet of 16 mixers at work nerver had a problem with the Cats or Cummins.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 12:29 AM
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Just a word about Wix vs. Baldwin-
I think Wix filters are of good quality. But I recently found out something that changed my mind about running one for fuel on my '96. The Baldwin BF1233 is rated at 5 microns, the Wix 33402 is 15 microns. When I first bought my truck, I changed the filters and fluids since I had no idea of when they might have been changed prior. I bought the Wix and ran it for too long. Almost four years and 100,000 miles. I would never have done that if I had known it was passing particles 10 microns larger than the Baldwin. Just because the application is the same, or they cross over to each other, doesn't mean different brands have the same specs.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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Interesting VinDiesel because I am absolutely certain that the early Fleetguard spin on fuel filters are made by Wix.
This means that Baldwins are better than Fleetguard (Wix) at least in this application.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by infidel
Interesting VinDiesel because I am absolutely certain that the early Fleetguard spin on fuel filters are made by Wix.
This means that Baldwins are better than Fleetguard (Wix) at least in this application.
NOW THAT'S INTERESTING. I have some Fleetguard FS1253's sitting here I was going to start using next. There are actually two slightly different configurations with the same part number- one is full length to the bottom just as the Baldwin, the other has a somewhat shorter body and a bung that extends down for the drain/water sensor (that way the over-all length is the same). I figured one or the other is just earlier production. NOW I WONDER if I should be concerned about the micron ratings on these?
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by infidel
Interesting VinDiesel because I am absolutely certain that the early Fleetguard spin on fuel filters are made by Wix.
This means that Baldwins are better than Fleetguard (Wix) at least in this application.
This is how things get mixed up. I really shouldn't have titled this thread Baldwin/Fram. I bet someone somewhere has said they both are the same filter because they read it online. Fleetguard is top dog, Wix doesn't hold a candle to them, Wix isn't even approved by Cummins for the 5.9. Either way the war continues.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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As I have said about a million times, it is easist to use a fleetgaurd or mopar then you don't have to worry. No worries about locking up an engine and Dodge trying to blame it on your filter. Me personally, I'd rather spend a few extra bucks and have what it came from the factory with.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by VinDiesel
NOW I WONDER if I should be concerned about the micron ratings on these?
If Cummins designed the engine to be used with the correct Fleetguard (or in some cases Wix) why should you need to do better? I have over 450k combined miles on my trucks with Wix, Napa Gold and a few Fleetguard fuel filters, never any fuel system related problems. A finer micron rating than Cummins speced will just plug up sooner likely with no additional benefit.

bgilbert, My info on Fleetguard spin on fuel filters doesn't come from the Internet. I left a removed Fleetguard filter in the solvent tank overnight, when the blue paint peeled off, behold it was white and said Wix on it. Number stamped into the casing of Wix, Napa Gold and Fleetguard spin on fuel filters is the same.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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I do a lot of dust collector work and have been through Donaldson/Torit's factory. Baldwin is a part of the Donaldson group, specifically air oil and fuel filtration for off road equipment. Their factory is an impressive place to tour. The R & D department continually works on new designs and constantly checks their product off of the assembly lines. Donaldson/Torit and Baldwin have been around for over 100 years and in my opinion, represent the industry leader in all aspects of filtration. Next time you see a big rig with his filter intake on the side of the hood, you can almost bet that there is a Baldwin or Donaldson filter in there. Heck if I remember correctly, before I put my BHAF in, the factory airbox had Donaldson molded into it....

Gary

Baldwin is not part of Donaldson. Baldwin is owned by Clarcor, the same company that makes Hastings. But with that being said I believe Donaldson IMO is one of the very best filters on the market, and I noticed my truck holds better oil pressure with a Donaldson than it does with a Baldwin, however all my equipment, our Jeep and currently my pickup all have Baldwin filters on them. No problems at all.

http://www.clarcor.com/business/engi...iltration.aspx
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.....
(this is giving me a headache)
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