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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 11:37 PM
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Ill get a 6.7, when they are in a 5500, mega cab, C+C, 4x4, 6-speed manual, when my 04 has 300 000+ miles
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RickG
There won't be any working around the particulate filter unless it's srtictly off road . Fines would be heavy . The extra money isn't for the engine . Besides the cost of the new emissions parts manufacturers are passing on the cost of engineering and production changes they had to make . The only '07 diesel I have any confidence in is the Mercedes diesel they're going to put in the Grand Cherokee . But wait until you see the price tag on that .
RickG, do you know whether that Mercedes diesel for Jeep is of an I-6 or V6 configuration. The entire automotive industry and motoring public are getting so brainwashed about V engine configuration that it is illogical. Automatic transmissions let the V engines rev up so they can pull. I prefer both an I-6 diesel or gasoline engine over any V engine configuration. We have a 1/2 ton GMC 4.3L V6 and my son has a Chev Trail Blazer with a 4.2L I-6 gasoline engine. The Trail Blazer is a better light tow vehicle than our GMC pickup. The V configuration engines have less low rpm torque. I do like the BMW twin turbo-charged 1-6 gasoline engine, and if I would purchase an automobile it would be a BMW with the 1-6. I shy away from V configuration engines.

I drove a few highway tractors with Cummins, Detroit 60 series and Cat I-6 engines, but a Detroit screeming Jimmy 8V92 V8 could out run anything when pulling a light van on flat road. The 8V92 got tired just looking at a grade. If the rpm was not kept above 2400 there was no pulling power, and then an operator had to keep dropping gears to keep the engine humming in hilly country. Personel at an engine rebuilding shop, many decades ago, told my that V configuration engines give them all their business, as the I-6 engines only need rebuilding when they have extended running hours in service. I suppose the manufacturing industry would be unwise to produce a product that did not break down. The service industry and manufacturer need repeat business to survive economically. Thats life, but I want pulling torque and not a high speed road machine. That is why I bought a Dodge diesel, or should I say a Cummins with a Mercedes manual transmission.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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Good post, FAY.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jrs_dodge_diesel
Instead of the vanes moving (which is a very complex setup with lots of moving parts) the Holset VGT has a sliding cone that reduces/enlarges the exhaust opening to the downpipe. This make the exhaust gas flow faster and harder over the turbine at low boost. The cone enlarges the opening as boost build so it will not overspeed the turbo, or cause a restriction to the flow of exhast gases.
hmmm interesting...I didnt know that, I just assumed it was moveable teardrop-shaped vanes on a clocking ring like the Garrett AVNT's on the 6.0h no and (LLY/LBZ) dmax.

Although Id be curious how that design would be on EGT's and especially turbine drivepressure....I cant imagine it would be ideal for performance and hopefully it wont smother the cummins' great low end torque, but I guess just as long as the stupid EPA is happy nothing else matters.
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