i read in the wall street journal that toyota is building another plant san antonio texas, to introduce a 3/4 ton pickup,has any one heard of the possibility of a new diesel engine to go with it??

 

I heard a rumor about a 6 cylinder Hino diesel going into the new Tundra HD.

MikeyB

 

is that toyota,s diesel hino??

 

hino is to toyota as UD is to nissan

 

thanks zrider,i guess nissan is going to get into the act too as far as diesels go,things are heating up diesel wise.

 

The 6 cylinder Hino is an 8 liter. I don't think it's going in a pickup - but if it is I want one!

Hino's small engine is a 5 liter 4 cyl. With the diesel power war going on right now, I don't think Toyota is stupid enough to bring a knife to a gun fight.

Of course these are the people who, when customers complained of low power in the T100, the Toyota response was to make a smaller engine standard - the engine that their customers told them was underpowered became the optional upgrade. "You thought it was weak before - NOW how do you like it?"

 

i heard somewhere that the 4.5 powerstroke might be in the toyota before the ford

 

The Japs will NOT bring a knife to a gun fight. Rather, if Toyota and Nissan start making the 1 and 3/4 tons that they had the prototypes of last year, Ford and GM and probably Dodge are all going under.

The Tundra isn't even the size of a 1500... No matter what they call it, that's what it is competing against. A 5 liter Hino Diesel, with Toyota quality, in a Tundra would fetch $40,000 easy. The big 2 1/2 don't even have a Diesel in that demographic! A 5.0 L in a Tundra would dominate!

And the Tacomas and Tundras aren't underpowered at all. Even the old R-22's that Toyota had ran like raped apes considering what they were... Those engines are the size of a bottle of Mountain Dew and can whip my butt (unloaded)... And the V-6's in the Tacoma's and V-8's in the Tundra's are perfectly respectable. And they last just about as long as the Cummins.

When the Japs start competing with Dodge, Ford and GM they will win... I don't got much faith there... (Not that I mind considering all of the Jap trucks are being made in America now, anyways...)

 

no doubt about it, toyota is up to something,they are going to put more than a 4.7 litre v8 in the 3/4 ton just hope it isnt a cat. the sky is falling !lol they are no slouch!

 

went looking for UD's online and found the specs on their engine... a 4.7 L Inline 4 or a 7.7 L Inline 6. Nissan is trying to take over the full sized market (A V8 as powerful as a Hemi with almost 20 MPG and a 9000# tow rating to start with). If they go into the 3/4 ton or 1 ton market, I see them going all out and putting a reliable, 7.7L from their Ultimate Dependablity line.

 

but you cant get a titan regular cab

 

A buddy of mine has a Titan CC and he's lucky to get 13mpg. As for the 9k lbs towing rating, I'm not so sure about that. The Titan uses a Dana 44 rear axle which is on the small side for a full size truck. The Dana 44 is fine for Jeeps and small SUVs.

MikeyB

 

Hino has a 6.0L I6 TDI.

MikeyB

 

do you have any performance numbers for the 6.0litre hino,thank you for your help.(mikey b )

 

Considering the quality of my wife's V6 Tacoma 4x4, and the quality of the Hino in one of my brother's big trucks, I'd consider such a Toyota truck.

But here's another item for the rumor mill -- last month on a Detroit engineer's forum that pulls diesel people, someone asked if it was true that Toyota had approached Cummins, and the two companies were discussing a 6.8L engine designed specifically for the US and European light truck -enthusiast- market. The answer, from a Cummins engineer was: "Can't comment on that."