Fuels / BioDiesel / Diesel Prices Use this forum to discuss your biodiesel information, and to find the best price on fuel.

Biodiesel in Arctic Temps??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 26, 2008 | 06:57 PM
  #1  
Badboy_Goodman's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Question Biodiesel in Arctic Temps??

With how stupid diesel fuels have been getting...I've been debating the switch to biodiesel. I'm moving up to Alaska where it can reach negative -40° F. Is there a "too-cold" for biodiesel? Any suggestions? Thank you!

_________________
2001 Dodge 24-valve 5.9 Cummins Turbo-diesel, 4x4, 2500, Banks Sys.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2008 | 10:35 AM
  #2  
VFDFireman's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Sorry dude, but when it gets to 20F here in South Dakota, I have to start worring about gelling.

Over the counter additives won't do jack to stop gelling of Bio. I hate to say it, but I don't think that bio would be a good choice for a majority of the time in Alaska. You may get away with it during the summer months and some of Fall, but other wise it's going to gell up like mad in those temps up north.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2008 | 10:51 AM
  #3  
tabing's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
From: United Arab Emirates & White Mountains, AZ
I remember in Eastern Turkey with temps of -40, truckers would build a fire under oil pan and tank or use a blow torch carefully to warm things up a bit (not too much!).
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2008 | 11:08 AM
  #4  
dodgeguy71's Avatar
Chapter President
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,327
Likes: 0
From: Near Mt. Pleasant, Tennessee
Even here in middle Tn the one oil company I have been talking to about getting 100% bio from says he don't like keeping it around in the winter. Gels way to easy. We only get in the teens as far as temps go around here, and that's upon occasion. Not to sure what summer temps are like in Alaska, I remember I was there in June many years ago and the high was 52 for the day, but that was just one day.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2008 | 04:40 PM
  #5  
Tate's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 7,780
Likes: 0
From: Airdrie, Alberta
Diesel Dave2 runs lots of bio, he had an issue of a tank full of B100 gelling at around -15 or so. Some of that Stanadyne 911 got him going pretty easy he said. Up here, it'll be +20C in February and -15C in April, so its really a crapshoot as to when its safe to run gellable fuels.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2008 | 06:54 PM
  #6  
yanertrivr's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
From: Denali Park, Alaska
Depending on where you are, summer temps can range from the the 40's-50's up to th3 90's-fairbanks. I don't know much about the gelling issue yet but will be learning more with my first summer with a diesel. I hear that Seafoam is a pretty good fuel additive for gelling but the realm of biodiesel is all basic witchcraft from my point at this time. Good luck
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2008 | 07:51 PM
  #7  
ian515's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 844
Likes: 0
From: an Alaskan living in Des Moines Iowa....
yeah, where are you goin anyway?
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2008 | 07:54 PM
  #8  
slickwillie's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
from what i understand, bio doesnt gel, it waxes. it ruined a trip up north to colorado once and it will never be ran in my truck if there is any chance of the weather being less and 50s
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2008 | 09:44 AM
  #9  
infidel's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 14,672
Likes: 9
From: Montana
Power Service Arctic Express biodiesel treatment will prevent gelling of B20 down to -40°F
More info http://www.powerservice.com/aedf/

I don't think it would be wise to run B100 in Alaska any time of year, B75 would likely be a good maximum for summer.
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2008 | 04:39 PM
  #10  
Badboy_Goodman's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Reply...

Originally Posted by ian515
yeah, where are you goin anyway?
I'm moving to the Anchorage, AK area.
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2008 | 02:36 AM
  #11  
Badboy_Goodman's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Question Tank/Line Heaters?

What about Tank & line heaters? Maybe a fuel filter heater too? Yes/No/Maybe?
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2008 | 11:02 AM
  #12  
Diesel Dave2's Avatar
Pickin on the wrong admin...
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,568
Likes: 1
I played with fire this winter...Got down several times to -20C and colder and I had about 50% bio in the tank.I almost got the tank jelled up last winter but put in about 750 ML of 911 and everthing was ok.This winter I added a little 911 on every fillup of the diesel and bio mix.I was lucky I had no problems.I would only recommend 5 to 10% when temps get to -10C..Don't take a chance like I did...
Reply
Old May 2, 2008 | 11:54 AM
  #13  
AkTallPaul's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 277
Likes: 0
From: Delta Jct Alaska
Originally Posted by Badboy_Goodman
I'm moving to the Anchorage, AK area.
Well if you decide to leave Los Anchorage and head into Alaska temps will be colder than where you started from, considering the mountain passes that you have to go over. So be carefull of your blends.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
abc4yew
3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only)
19
Apr 17, 2006 02:20 PM
Syndicate
3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only)
10
Feb 1, 2006 12:01 AM
jlells01
Other
2
Feb 28, 2005 10:30 PM
JohnnyH
Other
15
Apr 26, 2004 03:07 PM
100 Proof
Towing and Hauling / RV
4
Sep 8, 2003 03:26 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:18 AM.