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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 03:49 PM
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Death Wobble

I im trying to find of how i can get this death wobble i have in my 2004.5 ram 2500 to stop, because i already upgraded the steering stabilizer,that worked for a little but it sill happens and it happens with new tires, if you could please shine some light on this problem thanks. This happens alot so please help.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 07:03 PM
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There are several things that can cause DW. There hasn't been a true fix for it, but there are things that make it better. New track bar to recenter your front tires, because of your lift and tires, if you haven't done so yet. Upgrade to 08+ steering assembly, better design. Better shocks. Check your ball joints, tie rods, any play will be amplifed. Also have you had a wheel alignment done recently. There may be more to check and/or change, but this is a start for you.
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 09:06 PM
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Yea I have recently don front end alignment. But I was. Looking at the upgraded steering I think it should work and I noticed 2 day that the truck likes to wonder another thing my front tires wear differently like the left one t still has tread but the right one don't. Oh and if you look at it from the front the left is not straight but the right one is. Would that be caused by those parts that you listed being messed up
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 09:45 PM
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Try to find a alignment shop with newer equipment I went through the same thing on tire wear with mine I had a four wheel alignment done now it drives true
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 02:51 AM
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OK I'll check that out. And see if I can't get the death wobble to stop with the upgrade steering linkage and do the alignment in hopefully that works oh and another when I do get alignments done every time the steering is tight but as soon as I start turning the wheel it has a pop then the steering is loose.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 07:01 AM
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How fast are you going when you truck starts to wobble? Mine dose it around 65-70 but "fixs" itself by just hitting the throttle a little harder.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 04:45 PM
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Well mine does it when ever I hit a bump or the road is rough and then when I hit the breaks it shakes the whole truck but some days it does nothing.
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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Kookie
I im trying to find of how i can get this death wobble i have in my 2004.5 ram 2500 to stop, because i already upgraded the steering stabilizer,that worked for a little but it sill happens and it happens with new tires, if you could please shine some light on this problem thanks. This happens alot so please help.
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Kookie:

This subject has ALOT of threads and information. Here is a link to one of the longer and more in-depth threads on the Death Wobble. Get ready for some LONG reading!

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...le-t94076.html

This thread should answer alot of the questions you have.

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Old Jun 28, 2012 | 06:37 PM
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My solution

New good (dyna trac) ball joints, upgraded steering linkage, new steering stabilzer, and steering box stabilizer and its gone finally. Good luck.
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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 08:54 AM
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I got rid of mine. You have to READ the posts on this subject!

For one thing, DW isn't just an annoyance, it is dangerous. I wouldn't let anyone drive my truck as it could go from a mild mannered cruise to a wild death ride after hitting a bump on a corner.

My thoughts (and mine are as good as anyone's because NOBODY has figured this out) are to start simple and go from there. I did mine one piece at a time and figured out what caused mine, but you may get different results. Here's why:

These fronts are riding on the edge of stability. The design is a balance between load capacity, tire wear, ride and handling. A huge compromise. If you see a video of what happens while the front axle oscillates you start to understand how to fix it. The front tires roll under the rim and create a spring effect that throws that side of the axle up in the air, causing the other side to roll under the rim and bounce up in the air. The truck speed is an important part of this, as are tire size and air pressure. To resist this problem, all moving parts need to be tight. But this doesn't explain how trucks can have 200,000 miles on them and have worn out parts and NOT ever have DW.

So we go back to what the difference between an old worn out truck without DW and a new tight truck with DW may have. That's where I started, and I replaced one thing at a time.

I had 33" BFG's on, and they are known to contribute to DW. Maybe it's the sidewall flex or something, but they do. I found by airing them up to max pressure and rotating them often, I could almost eliminate my DW.

I had my alignment checked, and all was within spec, but I had my caster increased to nearly 4 degrees. Less caster creates wobble, more creates tire wear and hard steering. I am a little over factory specs but when I put a heavy load on the back I'm back to factory specs. Raising the front or lowering the rear changes caster.

I still had the problem and could instantly cause it by airing the front tires to 50 psi and rounding a curve with a bump at 55. So I installed two more items, even though this went against my one at a time idea, but I was in there and they were easy and cheap, so I did it.

I put urethane bushings in my track bar and put on a new steering stabilizer. That was it. I have put 90,000 miles on my truck since then and have 35" tires and have no problems at any speed or any corner. I installed a leveling kit even. No problems. I have never changed my ball joints, steering components, or tie rod ends. I did add a steering box stabilizer to get rid of the clunk of it moving and tighten the steering, but that was many miles after my DW was gone.

I'm not guaranteeing my repair would work on your truck as they all have little quirks that set them off. But my advice is to increase the caster to between 3.5 and 4.5, make sure your toe is good, tighten up the track bar, don't run soft tires in the front and have a good steering stabilizer.

Good luck.
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