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2003 Yukon XL Denali Diesel Swap

Old Feb 22, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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How much heavier is a Dmax than the 6L that is in the truck now?
I know its heavier then the gasser in it right now but not by how much.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dj_souvlaki
i see nightmares with electrical.

there are alot of modules on that truck.
I said above the electrical will not be a nightmare.

They probably tell you its a nightmare to make their insane price sound like a better deal. Harnesses are plug and play. If the denali is a 2001-2002, you will need a 2001-2002 dmax engine harness. If the denali is 2003+, then you'll need a 2003+ dmax engine harness. The GMT-800's got a completely overhauled electrical system in 2003, thats why the year engine used is important if you want the harnesses to be plug and play.

All GMT-800 computers speak the same databus language so the main body computer, instrument cluster and stuff wont even care that its now talking to a Dmax ECM instead of a gasser ECM.


dmax is 837 lbs. I dont see any problem putting it in a half ton frame. The 2500 suburban frame isnt much different than a 1500 frame. 55k is "total" out the door for a used 'Burban with the dmax swapped in, not just for the conversion alone.

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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by duratothemax
I said above the electrical will not be a nightmare.

They probably tell you its a nightmare to make their insane price sound like a better deal. Harnesses are plug and play. If the denali is a 2001-2002, you will need a 2001-2002 dmax engine harness. If the denali is 2003+, then you'll need a 2003+ dmax engine harness. The GMT-800's got a completely overhauled electrical system in 2003, thats why the year engine used is important if you want the harnesses to be plug and play.

All GMT-800 computers speak the same databus language so the main body computer, instrument cluster and stuff wont even care that its now talking to a Dmax ECM instead of a gasser ECM.


dmax is 837 lbs. I dont see any problem putting it in a half ton frame. The 2500 suburban frame isnt much different than a 1500 frame. 55k is "total" out the door for a used 'Burban with the dmax swapped in, not just for the conversion alone.

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They are current selling a burb for 79K. I think they really are selling just the upgrade for 55K.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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I was quoted 55k for just the conversion on a vehicle I already own.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Anyone know what a 6 liter gasser weighs?
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by duratothemax
I said above the electrical will not be a nightmare.

They probably tell you its a nightmare to make their insane price sound like a better deal. Harnesses are plug and play. If the denali is a 2001-2002, you will need a 2001-2002 dmax engine harness. If the denali is 2003+, then you'll need a 2003+ dmax engine harness. The GMT-800's got a completely overhauled electrical system in 2003, thats why the year engine used is important if you want the harnesses to be plug and play.

All GMT-800 computers speak the same databus language so the main body computer, instrument cluster and stuff wont even care that its now talking to a Dmax ECM instead of a gasser ECM.


dmax is 837 lbs. I dont see any problem putting it in a half ton frame. The 2500 suburban frame isnt much different than a 1500 frame. 55k is "total" out the door for a used 'Burban with the dmax swapped in, not just for the conversion alone.

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So, from what I am reading here, its basicly plug and play for those years. And since the chassy is the same with Tahoes does that mean its plug and play for them as well?
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tmleadr03
So, from what I am reading here, its basicly plug and play for those years. And since the chassy is the same with Tahoes does that mean its plug and play for them as well?
yes correct. All GMT-800 series vehicles, ie, silverado, sierra, tahoe, yukon, escalade, denali, suburban, yukon XL, sierra denali.

Just keep in mind 2002 and earlier and 2003+ harnesses are all different though. 2003 was when they had the "mid-cycle enhancment" and completely overhauled the electrical system.

wow 55k I didnt know that was JUST for the conversion. Im almost positive they werent that expensive. They use used suburbans, and most of the time used engines too...
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by duratothemax
yes correct. All GMT-800 series vehicles, ie, silverado, sierra, tahoe, yukon, escalade, denali, suburban, yukon XL, sierra denali.

Just keep in mind 2002 and earlier and 2003+ harnesses are all different though. 2003 was when they had the "mid-cycle enhancment" and completely overhauled the electrical system.

wow 55k I didnt know that was JUST for the conversion. Im almost positive they werent that expensive. They use used suburbans, and most of the time used engines too...
I emailed the directly and was quoted 55k for the conversion only. 10k for the 3/4 ton chassis, 29k parts, and 16k labor. That is a bit ridiculous to me.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TravisDj
I emailed the directly and was quoted 55k for the conversion only. 10k for the 3/4 ton chassis, 29k parts, and 16k labor. That is a bit ridiculous to me.
29k in parts and 16k in labor??!?!
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by duratothemax
29k in parts and 16k in labor??!?!

If this is the CO company they use brand new engines. Might count for a bit of that.
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by tmleadr03
If this is the CO company they use brand new engines. Might count for a bit of that.
sometimes they use used engines too.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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Consider an early 6.5 turbo without elecronics. I am not that familiar with the Detroit diesels, but I think there was one year without electronics.

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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Consider an early 6.5 turbo without elecronics. I am not that familiar with the Detroit diesels, but I think there was one year without electronics.

Ronnie
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Electronics ARE NOT THE PROBLEM. They are plug and play if you swap a dmax into a Denali.

Making a non-electornic motor work in a Denali would be a HUGE PITA. None of the guages would work, you would need a different ignition switch, all new wiring, trans wouldnt work, PRND321 display wouldnt work, etc.......

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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 02:05 AM
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i would try to find a cheap/ rolled/wrecked dmax pick up with a good frame and put your body on that or go with a non electonic engine, detorit 353 would sound cool
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