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I hooked a sled like that in Missouri this year. It was smaller but it was still heavy. I pulled it 373ft and it probally could have been less if it was a little more weighted. This little sleds can be very decieving.
There are a few things you got to look at. Lenght of the weight track (the lenght in which the transfer box is going to move across the pan), lenght of the pan, sled gearing for transfer weight, sled operator, actual weight in the sled and last but not least, track condition.
Corey, I have pulled with ya. Helped you and Jason out, but there is one thing your not seeing. A couple of these guys including myself had pulled a couple other different places.
Now this is not to put you down but to educate you and others that are not as fortunate as some of us to pull across the country.
Now most people realize that track conditions are going to change across the country, but most people don't realize how much. Back in PA at the Buck or at Bloom, those tracks were awesome in my eyes. The Buck had an awesome ratio of dirt to clay. You could almost get any type of tire to bite close to your liking due to how well they kept that track. Here in MO, the tracks are much different (though the Billings Track was a track I would love to get my truck out onto cause it is alot liek the Buck). But the clay is also alot different out here in the midwest. Then you get to the rodeo pens. Mtn. Hm. AR doesn't even use a packer for the pulls we have there and the dirt is dirt. No clay, its like silt. I'm sure others on here have seen the same but there is a huge variance from track to track around here. Jasper, AR has a good track as well but some of the guys back east also don't know what it is like to "run the gate". I thought I did, I was wrong. Once you hit the gate, you got one track, no matter what track you want to run. I don't know how some of these like Roughy do it, but they can place their trucks a few inches here or there and make it work. It really is an art however you place it whether it is east coast, midwest, or the sandy dry conditions out west that Scott and Chris have told me about.
One of the major things out here in MO is that the sled operators don't care. I thought a few sled operators back east didn't like us, boy was I wrong. Some of the sled operators out here want you to break. They will be in the stock truck class throwing the breaks, knowing these trucks can't handle it. I will not say what sled I don't like but itis weird how you can see the difference. At the Buck, the sled operators were pretty good varying between classes. Here in MO I have seen alot of the operators slamming the breaks on a stock truck, just like they do a Prostock tractor. I also saw a teenager driving the one sled doing this and that kinda ticked me off cause it was almost like he didn't know what he was doing.
By the looks of the video, the sled was running a high gear which may be why corey is seeing it as not being that competitive. The shorter sleds usually have to run a higher gear becasue they don't have as much time of weight on pan as the longer sleds do. The larger pan, slower gears sleds (depending on track conditions) are usually easier cause of the more time the weight is on the pan to slow the sled down. This also leads to alot less broken parts.
I know here in MO, the sled operators load the sleds heavy almost everytime, with the exception of the Ol' Busch sled at Raymondsville. Heck, if I remember right, Jason's pull at Mtn Hm, AR the weight was not even all the way up and he had already stopped. Even though the track coniditons were extremely (do not underestimate that) soft, he had (6) 35" tall mud tires digging deep. But you also got to see that Kevin Cole, Jahnsen, Midwest Performance and others are pulling in this class so the weight has to be heavy to stop them.
Now I'm not putting the pull down at all Mopower. Anyone that steps up and tries it has alot of ***** because you know what could happen to a truck you love so much. I also respect the fact there are very few pulls down in the FL area. But, there are differences across the country. I felt like I could take my street truck out there adn have some fun, this coming from a truck that is about to take a tranny out cause you have to shift it into 1st gear to get started up a steep hill but the fact remains you got out and did it. I remember my first pull (man did I do horrible) but I got out there and did it. That was the first mistake cause I was "hooked" after that....
Either way you look at it, there are LARGE variations in pulling as you go across this great country. Some are tougher than others and everyone here has to remember that, Mo, Corey, all of you.
Corey, I have pulled with ya. Helped you and Jason out, but there is one thing your not seeing. A couple of these guys including myself had pulled a couple other different places.
Now this is not to put you down but to educate you and others that are not as fortunate as some of us to pull across the country.
Now most people realize that track conditions are going to change across the country, but most people don't realize how much. Back in PA at the Buck or at Bloom, those tracks were awesome in my eyes. The Buck had an awesome ratio of dirt to clay. You could almost get any type of tire to bite close to your liking due to how well they kept that track. Here in MO, the tracks are much different (though the Billings Track was a track I would love to get my truck out onto cause it is alot liek the Buck). But the clay is also alot different out here in the midwest. Then you get to the rodeo pens. Mtn. Hm. AR doesn't even use a packer for the pulls we have there and the dirt is dirt. No clay, its like silt. I'm sure others on here have seen the same but there is a huge variance from track to track around here. Jasper, AR has a good track as well but some of the guys back east also don't know what it is like to "run the gate". I thought I did, I was wrong. Once you hit the gate, you got one track, no matter what track you want to run. I don't know how some of these like Roughy do it, but they can place their trucks a few inches here or there and make it work. It really is an art however you place it whether it is east coast, midwest, or the sandy dry conditions out west that Scott and Chris have told me about.
One of the major things out here in MO is that the sled operators don't care. I thought a few sled operators back east didn't like us, boy was I wrong. Some of the sled operators out here want you to break. They will be in the stock truck class throwing the breaks, knowing these trucks can't handle it. I will not say what sled I don't like but itis weird how you can see the difference. At the Buck, the sled operators were pretty good varying between classes. Here in MO I have seen alot of the operators slamming the breaks on a stock truck, just like they do a Prostock tractor. I also saw a teenager driving the one sled doing this and that kinda ticked me off cause it was almost like he didn't know what he was doing.
By the looks of the video, the sled was running a high gear which may be why corey is seeing it as not being that competitive. The shorter sleds usually have to run a higher gear becasue they don't have as much time of weight on pan as the longer sleds do. The larger pan, slower gears sleds (depending on track conditions) are usually easier cause of the more time the weight is on the pan to slow the sled down. This also leads to alot less broken parts.
I know here in MO, the sled operators load the sleds heavy almost everytime, with the exception of the Ol' Busch sled at Raymondsville. Heck, if I remember right, Jason's pull at Mtn Hm, AR the weight was not even all the way up and he had already stopped. Even though the track coniditons were extremely (do not underestimate that) soft, he had (6) 35" tall mud tires digging deep. But you also got to see that Kevin Cole, Jahnsen, Midwest Performance and others are pulling in this class so the weight has to be heavy to stop them.
Now I'm not putting the pull down at all Mopower. Anyone that steps up and tries it has alot of ***** because you know what could happen to a truck you love so much. I also respect the fact there are very few pulls down in the FL area. But, there are differences across the country. I felt like I could take my street truck out there adn have some fun, this coming from a truck that is about to take a tranny out cause you have to shift it into 1st gear to get started up a steep hill but the fact remains you got out and did it. I remember my first pull (man did I do horrible) but I got out there and did it. That was the first mistake cause I was "hooked" after that....
Either way you look at it, there are LARGE variations in pulling as you go across this great country. Some are tougher than others and everyone here has to remember that, Mo, Corey, all of you.
BTW I don't want to make any of you sound like rookies. Corey has pulled alot so I know he isn't s rookie so don't assume I'm saying that either. Corey and Jason and the rest of the crew has some experience.

Thanks for the info, looking forwark to pullin this year give me a call sometime or I'll drop by maybe even tommorrow got to go to branson and Ballies called today they have a 12v there building going to stop by there too.
I know I'm a turd. I hope I can pull this year. New opportunities are opening up to me so I am not sure what I want to do yet. Actually, the new opportunities aren't even diesel related..... Go figure... Let me know what's going on. You know how I feel about Ballies.... Plus I got a few other things I got to tie up tomorrow but I may stop over with ya, to rub a few things in their... well... you get the point... LOL
We pull on many different types of tracks too, from one extreme to the other. I dont understand your point with all this, all sleds stop you at one point depending on track length. The sled is adjusted to weight of class type and length of track. This means one sled isnt any harder on your truck than another sled. Its the track that is hard on the truck
. Softer tracks you will break less (if you dont hop) harder tracks more traction harder on your truck. Our sled does weigh around 50k and I will call the owner today to get the weight. Some events we have semi's and it stops them also. The chain angle is higher and longer.
. Softer tracks you will break less (if you dont hop) harder tracks more traction harder on your truck. Our sled does weigh around 50k and I will call the owner today to get the weight. Some events we have semi's and it stops them also. The chain angle is higher and longer.
We pull on many different types of tracks too, from one extreme to the other. I dont understand your point with all this, all sleds stop you at one point depending on track length. The sled is adjusted to weight of class type and lenth of track. This means one sled isnt any harder on your truck than another sled. Its the track that is hard on the truck
. Softer tracks you will break less (if you dont hop) harder tracks more traction harder on your truck. Our sled does weigh around 50k and I will call the owner today to get the weight. Some events we have semi's and it stops them also. The chain angle is higher and longer.
. Softer tracks you will break less (if you dont hop) harder tracks more traction harder on your truck. Our sled does weigh around 50k and I will call the owner today to get the weight. Some events we have semi's and it stops them also. The chain angle is higher and longer.

I for one am proud of our Street Stock Diesel class. We have some good trucks and great people pulling with us. Around 20+- trucks every weekend and the competition makes it fun for everyone! I dont have mone to compete with the big dogs so I do this for Fun. Thanks to guys like Mike (mopower) I have had fun, and when I stop having fun I will find another hobby!
See you @ Desoto Mike!
See you @ Desoto Mike!
I for one am proud of our Street Stock Diesel class. We have some good trucks and great people pulling with us. Around 20+- trucks every weekend and the competition makes it fun for everyone! I dont have mone to compete with the big dogs so I do this for Fun. Thanks to guys like Mike (mopower) I have had fun, and when I stop having fun I will find another hobby!
See you @ Desoto Mike!
See you @ Desoto Mike!
sissys need to take it to the real track.....1/4 track and I aint talking about sled pulling.
Mike...you know you enjoyed your 1st and only trip to the dragstrip. I like the sled pull, but im too afraid of breaking something. I just feel safe on the strip.....
4.10's wont help me on the strip but I just bought a 1995 12v with 3.55 that may see a pass or two in between hooks. LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXWXX...eature=related
Just watch the first truck in this vid. It's pulling the drivers side wheel.
Merrick
Just watch the first truck in this vid. It's pulling the drivers side wheel.
Merrick
Check out this hunk pull the tires too hehe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY_xv...eature=related
Merrick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY_xv...eature=related
Merrick
Was that at St. Charles county? If thats what you are talking about that was a joke. That sled weighed 14,000 pounds and had 10 feet of chain. It wasn't the weight that stopped you it was the lose of traction. A stock F-450 with a flatbed pulled it something like 400 feet because his truck was so heavy he never lost traction.



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