Anyone own one, just for having?
05-07-2009, 07:09 PM
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Anyone own one, just for having?
I have been thinking of getting one, just to have along with a box trailer. Either just drive the truck around sometime, and use it with a trailer to carry my stuff around when needed. Those trailers for pickups are just too small sometimes, and certainly too flimsy.
Many times I have seen complete rigs for sale for ~10k-15k, but with a million miles. Are those with 1 million miles on the engine in such bad condition (mechanical wise) to be such a low price?
Many times I have seen complete rigs for sale for ~10k-15k, but with a million miles. Are those with 1 million miles on the engine in such bad condition (mechanical wise) to be such a low price?
05-07-2009, 07:12 PM
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05-07-2009, 07:32 PM
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Yeah, I sure would not. Texas is quite big enough cruise around in. The state has different classes of plates for trucks, depending on what the usage is for and weight you plan on carrying.
California is just a bit too commie & socialist for me.
05-07-2009, 07:34 PM
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Insurance is a killer on big trucks. I have 4 of them and ins. is a big expense. When you have big trucks you have to deal with the DOT safety inspection stations "money takers not so much on safety". Then to drive them around you have to the ins., log books, your signs on the side of the truck, cab cards, ect. a pain. Hmmm wanna buy some lol.
05-07-2009, 07:42 PM
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Insurance is a killer on big trucks. I have 4 of them and ins. is a big expense. When you have big trucks you have to deal with the DOT safety inspection stations "money takers not so much on safety". Then to drive them around you have to the ins., log books, your signs on the side of the truck, cab cards, ect. a pain. Hmmm wanna buy some lol.
Insurance probably would not be too bad since it would be classified as driving for pleasure, or commuting rather than commercial purposes.
05-07-2009, 08:05 PM
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trentc please do this. You sound like an attorney truckers need some relief from all the bs we are getting these days. What state you from? I got stopped some time ago in Houston by a city dot for inspection, had a marker light out but it was daytime anyways I think the ticket was $120 plus, less than an hour later got stopped on the freeway in the middle of nowhere by a state dot, another inspection, informed him I just got inspected, his words were "not by me" so another inspection popped me for the same light. Hot was not the word for me. Anyways good luck in your venture.
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I have a customer that comes around every couple of years. He has a 1978 Pete 379, blown 3208 Cat, and a 13 speed trans.
He has a BIG condo on it. He has it tagged as an RV. No CDL, no fuel stickers, no DOT#, only a Private Not For Hire sign on the sides.
He said he only pays $35.00 for the tag as an RV.
He also has a 40' trailer that is set up like a toy hauler, with a camper area in the front, and storage for his cycle and a small car in the back. The trailer has a drop frame from the pin back, and its on 19.5's so its real low.
Its a pretty neat set up.
He has a BIG condo on it. He has it tagged as an RV. No CDL, no fuel stickers, no DOT#, only a Private Not For Hire sign on the sides.
He said he only pays $35.00 for the tag as an RV.
He also has a 40' trailer that is set up like a toy hauler, with a camper area in the front, and storage for his cycle and a small car in the back. The trailer has a drop frame from the pin back, and its on 19.5's so its real low.
Its a pretty neat set up.
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05-07-2009, 08:09 PM
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Had over 40 at one time. Was mining and hauling. Glad I sold the company before the last recession and fuel prices went to hell. Still work on them though. Someone else has to pay for it now. Nothing like an old NTC series. You can hop those things up easier than a B series. They don't have all that computer crap that they have now. Bolt that to a 13 speed OD Roadranger and screw that into a set of Rockwell axles and you can't kill it.
05-07-2009, 08:27 PM
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trentc please do this. You sound like an attorney truckers need some relief from all the bs we are getting these days. What state you from? I got stopped some time ago in Houston by a city dot for inspection, had a marker light out but it was daytime anyways I think the ticket was $120 plus, less than an hour later got stopped on the freeway in the middle of nowhere by a state dot, another inspection, informed him I just got inspected, his words were "not by me" so another inspection popped me for the same light. Hot was not the word for me. Anyways good luck in your venture.
I am not an attorney, but I read a lot on laws, court cases, etc., and I take every single citation I receive to court (and other things to court). So far I have a 100% win rate.
The reason they get away with this is because to take the issue to court, you have to appear, or hire an attorney. One takes your time, and the other takes more money than the citation (unless it involves your future as a driver, then it can;t be too much money)
If you have the time just take it to court. You have a 50/50 chance of winning at that stage. If you loose, no big deal..appeal the case and take it to the next level of court system. It will get dismissed there. Unless of course it is a DUI/DWI then this is different, I mean regular citations not involving jail time.
I have not read up on the CDL laws, or requirements, but if there is a condition you agreed to upon receipt of the CDL of being permiting the police to pull you over a safety inspection, then not much you can do.
If this is not the case, then you start asking the simple questions of "Did you have probable cause to stop me?" "Are you detaining me?" And if they answer yes to the previous question, then "What is the purpose of the detention?"
When you sound informed about how the system works, they tend to back off.
Has anyone tried the logbook issue? "yes officer, I have my logbook here as the law requires. What? you want to see it? Do you have a subpoena? Will the information contained in it be used against me?"
Oh, and when you are pulled over try to stop on PRIVATE property. And everytime you are pulled over, get out and LOCK the door behind you. A locked vehicle is now out of the "reach area" and thus needs a warrant/probable cause to get in, unless something wrong is seen in plain view.
05-07-2009, 08:47 PM
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trentc please do this. You sound like an attorney truckers need some relief from all the bs we are getting these days. What state you from? I got stopped some time ago in Houston by a city dot for inspection, had a marker light out but it was daytime anyways I think the ticket was $120 plus, less than an hour later got stopped on the freeway in the middle of nowhere by a state dot, another inspection, informed him I just got inspected, his words were "not by me" so another inspection popped me for the same light. Hot was not the word for me. Anyways good luck in your venture.
After doing some light reading:
Burger requires that the statute's inspection program must: 1) advise the owner of the commercial premises that the search is being made pursuant to law; and 2) limit the discretion of the inspecting officers. See Burger, 482 U.S. at 703. [My comment: Do the officers make such notification?]
The district court concluded that the Texas statutory scheme met both requirements because Texas law provides property owners with adequate notice that their vehicles may be seized and searched on the highways under section 644.103(a), and limits the discretion of the inspecting officers under section 644.104(b).
We agree, even though both statutes could have been more comprehensive and defined. There is enough, however, to permit any owner of a commercial vehicle to be aware that he would be subject to warrantless and suspicionless stops while driving. See Burger, 482 U.S. at 703. Although the sections do appear to limit the discretion of an officer after the stop, see Tex. Transp. Code Ann.
� 644.103(c) and � 644.104(b), they are subject to criticism for failing to provide specific limitations on the officer's discretion in making the decision to stop. See Burger, 482 U.S. at 703. We are satisfied, however, from the "background" testimony, that this stop met constitutional muster.
We conclude that the warrantless stop and inspection of Fort's commercial vehicle were valid under Burger's regulatory exception to the warrant requirement.
The district court concluded that the Texas statutory scheme met both requirements because Texas law provides property owners with adequate notice that their vehicles may be seized and searched on the highways under section 644.103(a), and limits the discretion of the inspecting officers under section 644.104(b).
We agree, even though both statutes could have been more comprehensive and defined. There is enough, however, to permit any owner of a commercial vehicle to be aware that he would be subject to warrantless and suspicionless stops while driving. See Burger, 482 U.S. at 703. Although the sections do appear to limit the discretion of an officer after the stop, see Tex. Transp. Code Ann.
� 644.103(c) and � 644.104(b), they are subject to criticism for failing to provide specific limitations on the officer's discretion in making the decision to stop. See Burger, 482 U.S. at 703. We are satisfied, however, from the "background" testimony, that this stop met constitutional muster.
We conclude that the warrantless stop and inspection of Fort's commercial vehicle were valid under Burger's regulatory exception to the warrant requirement.
05-08-2009, 12:43 AM
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I've heard of the "Not for Hire" thing, too. I was told that you can drive a rig with no CDL or DOT/fuel tags if its listed as a non-comm. vehicle
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I'm glad you posted this thread because I plan on buying/restoring one when I get settled into my house. Won't use it for work purposes, just take it to shows and the Diesel Nationals they have every year at Englishtown.
05-08-2009, 12:32 PM
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ha ha ha good luck on running a big truck and not getting hassled only a dot cop can look at a log book. DOT can stop any vehicle they want if they have a suspicion that it is commercial then you must prove otherwise