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Place in Calgary to get a head repaired?

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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 10:30 PM
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Place in Calgary to get a head repaired?

Well I've still got the brand new CR head that I had on my '03 for 30km before the #6 hole disintegrated and bent the valves.

Anyone know a place in Calgary to get it checked over and repaired? Getting tired of this thing take up all the room on my bench.

Also any suggestions on what to do with the block? #6 piston is toast and the walls are scored.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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be a good unit for fabbing up twins,, not sure what to tell you,, Id bring the head to trac engine in edmonton, they are very reasonable... can a person sleeve these blocks? or is there oversized pistons for them?

how much do you want for them both?
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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I've heard Trac engines is good but I didn't want to make multiple trips up there.


I was thinking of putting the head into my '03 but if I got $1500 for both I'd let them go. I paid around $2500 for the head 6 months ago...
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 11:10 PM
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If I had the money I might be interested,, but right now money is at a premium,, trying to get the twins right now
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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Moores and D&W here in town do cummins head and can turn around the head pretty fast. If you want orings D&W can set you up. Just tell Moores that its an industrial engine.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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I thought Moores got out of engines completely and were just doing re-chroming....

Have you been there lately? Maybe they started again, it was about 2 years ago that I was in there.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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They just do industrial stuff, no auto anymore. Lots of 5.9L industrial engines out there. Of course I talked to them last year, nothing this year. They had the fastest turn around time of anybody local. I know that have done good work in the past. They had a torque plate for the 5.9L for the cylinder rebore and could do the mains alignment. Just that part alone sold me.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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Alberta Engine Rebuilders do a ton of rebuilds forthe patch on our motors only.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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AHHH, but do they actually use the torque plate?

When I was in the AST automotive program at SAIT we took a tour of Moores and saw their rebuild shop. Watched a guy honing out a block. Hanging on the wall were torque plates for all the V8 engines for the Big 3 manufactures. However there was a LOT of dust on them and there was no plate on the engine they guy was working on. The instructor said they've never seen them use those torque plates in all the years that SAIT took students through there.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 08:12 AM
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I talked to last year, that I wanted the engine bored over with the torque plate. They had no issue with doing that. Doing an alignbore on the mains might not be required, but its always a good idea to check when the engine is that far apart. I'll call today to make sure that I'm still giving out decent info. I know that they had overhaul kits cheaper than cummins. Cummins just sells the overkit by the part, not as a complete kit.

They haven't had much of a need to use torque plates, not alot of industrial engine require that precise of machining.

They don't work on auto engine anymore, so that why the V8 plates collect dust.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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It was almost 10years ago that I had that tour. At the time they were cranking out V8s like they were going out of style.

I imagine a lot has changed there since then....
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 12:26 AM
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I think most machine shops will only use a torque plate if you request it as it takes longer to install and they will and should pass that cost on to the customer. Your average engine doens't really need to be machined that accurate. Your block can be resleved, I think it costs about $300 up north here, should be cheaper down south.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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I talked to Moore yesterday. They still do torque plates. I'm gonna use my arp's 625, when I do mine. I still haven't landed on a head, piston and cam combo yet. I might put in bushings into the block for the cam.

I was looking at a oring cutting tool. They wanted $2500 usd for it. Typically orings are cut into the head with full cuts. The block typically on get half cut. I haven't figured this stuff out yet. Some guys do both the head and block.

I thought that us diesel guys used a thicker wire than 0.041in wire into a 0.039in cut. I guess that there is a special tool to measure depth.

I thought you could use a depth mic or caliper gauge to do the measuring.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by rage_blue
I think most machine shops will only use a torque plate if you request it as it takes longer to install and they will and should pass that cost on to the customer. Your average engine doens't really need to be machined that accurate. Your block can be resleved, I think it costs about $300 up north here, should be cheaper down south.

Is that $300 for all 6 holes or per hole? Maybe I'll get the block fixed as well and put the whole engine back in. Do you have to get all 6 done or could you just do the damaged ones?

Mike,
Thanks for the info on Moores. I'll give them a call in the next week or so...
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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Clayh, when you call Moores them ask if we can get a discount on more than one engine? Its worth asking. The only take engine that are totally apart and in pieces. I have a 24v that needs to be freshen up. I was suprised that they don't sell pistons. I want my engine bores to be fitted to the pistons. I will be doing the measuring to make sure that everything is true.

Our local Cummins wants $200+ dollars per slug. Ouchy, you can buy aftermarket pistons cheaper that have the thermo coats on.
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