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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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Windshield Wipers

I just noticed that my windshield wipers on low and high are the same speed. I called a Dodge dealer and they said it could be a bad switch.....I really don't like their grubby little paws on my truck if they don't have too. Has anyone heard of this??? What switch could it be....... and where is it located
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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Have you tried it wet too? I know that sounds real stupid, but those blades have a lot of resistance when dry. Spray the hose on it and see if there is a difference.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 06:53 AM
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I try not to run my wipers on a dry windshield as it scratches the hell out of the windshield.

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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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I tried while raining..........there is no diffrence......no one else has had an issue???????
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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nope mine work great.
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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The switch is on the turn signal handel but it could be the control board in the wiper motor. My 06 works fine but I've had other trucks in the past that I've had to replace the board on the wiper motor itself to fix that problem. On your 06 I can't say for sure not had that problem on mine yet.

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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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Most likely it would be the multifunction switch- turn signal stalk. It is only a sensor that sends a multiplexed voltage to the body computer to run the wipers. Yeah, sounds a little over engineered , I know! Here is the low down if you want to take the time to read it all!

OPERATION




The wiper and washer system is designed to provide the vehicle operator with a convenient, safe, and reliable means of maintaining visibility through the windshield glass. The various components of this system are designed to convert electrical energy produced by the vehicle electrical system into the mechanical action of the wiper blades to wipe the outside surface of the glass, as well as into the hydraulic action of the washer system to apply washer fluid stored in an on-board reservoir to the area of the glass to be wiped. When combined, these components provide the means to effectively maintain clear visibility for the vehicle operator by removing excess accumulations of rain, snow, bugs, mud, or other minor debris from the outside windshield glass surface that might be encountered while driving the vehicle under numerous types of inclement operating conditions.


The vehicle operator initiates all wiper and washer system functions with the control **** (1) on the end of the control stalk (2) of the multi-function switch that extends from the left side of the steering column, just below the steering wheel. Rotating the control **** on the end of the control stalk, selects the OFF, DELAY, LOW, or HIGH wiper system operating modes. In the DELAY mode, the control **** also allows the vehicle operator to select from one of five intermittent wipe delay intervals. Depressing the control **** towards the steering column actuates the momentary washer system switch, which selects the WASH or WIPE-AFTER-WASH modes depending upon when and how long the switch is held closed.

The multi-function switch provides hard wired resistor multiplexed inputs to the ElectroMechanical Instrument Cluster (EMIC) (also known as the Cab Compartment Node/CCN) for all of the wiper and washer system functions. The EMIC then sends electronic messages to the Totally Integrated Power Module (TIPM) over the Controller Area Network (CAN) data bus requesting the appropriate wiper and washer system operating modes.

Wiper and washer system operation are completely controlled by the EMIC and TIPM logic circuits, and that logic will only allow these systems to operate when the ignition switch is in the ACCESSORY or ON positions. The TIPM uses intelligent, high current, self-protected high side switches to control wiper system operation by energizing or de-energizing the wiper motor low and high speed brushes. The TIPM uses a high side driver to control the operation of the washer pump/motor unit. The multi-function switch circuitry receives a clean ground output from the instrument cluster on a multi-function switch return circuit, then provides resistor multiplexed inputs to the instrument cluster on an intermittent wipe mux circuit to indicate the selected wiper system mode and on a wash/beam select mux circuit to indicate the selected washer system mode.

The hard wired circuits and components of the wiper and washer system may be diagnosed using conventional diagnostic tools and procedures. Refer to the appropriate wiring information. However, conventional diagnostic methods will not prove conclusive in the diagnosis of the wiper and washer system or the electronic controls or communication between other modules and devices that provide some features of the wiper and washer system. The most reliable, efficient, and accurate means to diagnose the wiper and washer system or the electronic controls and communication related to wiper and washer system operation requires the use of a diagnostic scan tool. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic information.

OPERATING MODES
Following are paragraphs that briefly describe the operation of each of the wiper and washer system operating modes.

CONTINUOUS WIPE MODE
When the LOW position of the control **** on the control stalk of the multi-function switch is selected the EMIC sends an electronic wiper switch low status message to the TIPM, then the TIPM directs battery current to the low speed brush of the wiper motor, causing the wipers to cycle at low speed. When the HIGH position of the control **** is selected the EMIC sends an electronic wiper switch high status message to the TIPM, then the TIPM directs battery current to the high speed brush of the wiper motor, causing the wipers to cycle at high speed.

When the OFF position of the multi-function switch control **** is selected, the EMIC sends an electronic wiper switch off status message to the TIPM. If the wiper motor was operating at high speed, the TIPM immediately de-energizes the wiper motor high speed brush and energizes the low speed brush causing the wiper motor to return to low speed operation. Then one of two events will occurs, which depends upon the position of the wiper blades on the windshield at the moment that the control **** OFF position is selected.

If the wiper blades are in the down position on the windshield when the OFF position is selected, the park switch that is integral to the wiper motor is closed to ground and provides a hard wired park switch sense input to the TIPM. The TIPM then de-energizes the wiper motor low speed brush and the wiper motor ceases to operate. If the wiper blades are not in the down position on the windshield at the moment the OFF position is selected, the park switch is an open circuit and the TIPM keeps the wiper low speed brush energized, which causes the wiper motor to continue running at low speed until the wiper blades are in the down position on the windshield and the park switch input to the TIPM is again closed to ground.

INTERMITTENT WIPE MODE
When the control **** on the control stalk of the multi-function switch is moved to one of the DELAY interval positions the EMIC sends an electronic wiper switch delay status message to the TIPM, then the TIPM electronic intermittent wipe logic circuit responds by calculating the correct length of time between wiper sweeps based upon the selected delay interval input.

The TIPM monitors the changing state of the wiper motor park switch through a hard wired park switch sense input. This input allows the TIPM to determine the proper intervals at which to energize and de-energize the wiper motor low speed brush to operate the wiper motor intermittently for one low speed cycle at a time.

The TIPM logic is also programmed to provide vehicle speed sensitivity to the selected intermittent wipe delay intervals. In order to provide this feature the TIPM monitors electronic vehicle speed messages from the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) and doubles the selected delay interval whenever the vehicle speed is about 16 kilometers-per-hour (10 miles-per-hour) or less.

WASH MODE
When the control **** on the control stalk of the multi-function switch is depressed to the momentary WASH position for more than about one-half second, the EMIC sends an electronic washer switch status message to the TIPM, then the TIPM directs battery current to the washer pump/motor unit. This will cause the washer pump/motor unit to be energized for as long as the WASH switch is held closed up to about 30 seconds, and to de-energize when the WASH switch is released.

When the control **** is depressed to the momentary WASH position while the wiper system is operating in one of the DELAY interval positions, the washer pump/motor operation is the same. However, the TIPM also overrides the selected delay interval and operates the wiper motor in a continuous low speed mode for as long as the control **** is held depressed, then reverts to the selected delay interval several wipe cycles after the control **** is released. If the control **** is held depressed for more than about 10 seconds, the TIPM will suspend washer pump/motor operation until the **** is released for about 2 seconds, then cycled back to the WASH position.

WIPE-AFTER-WASH MODE
When the control **** on the control stalk of the multi-function switch is depressed to the momentary WASH position for more than about one-half second while the wiper system is not operating, the EMIC sends an electronic washer switch status message to the TIPM, then the TIPM directs battery current to the washer pump/motor unit and energizes the wiper motor low speed brush. This will cause the washer pump/motor unit to be energized and operate the wiper motor in a continuous low speed mode for as long as the WASH switch is held closed (up to about 10 seconds). When the control **** is released, the TIPM de-energizes the washer pump/motor unit, but allows the wiper motor to operate for several additional wipe cycles before it de-energizes the wiper motor low speed brush and parks the wiper blades near the base of the windshield.

If the control **** is held depressed for more than about 10 seconds, the TIPM will suspend washer pump/motor operation until the **** is released for about 2 seconds, then cycled back to the WASH position; however, the wipers will continue to operate for as long as the WASH switch is held closed. The TIPM monitors the changing state of the wiper motor park switch through a hard wired wiper park switch sense circuit input. This input allows the TIPM to count the number of wipe cycles that occur after the WASH switch is released, and to determine the proper interval at which to de-energize the wiper low speed brush to complete the WIPE-AFTER-WASH mode cycle.
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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Great reply...thanks for taking the time to put it together.....I'll keep you posted on the outcome
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Old Sep 8, 2014 | 02:56 PM
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how do you change switch on turn signal stalk
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Old Sep 8, 2014 | 05:31 PM
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Shorts did a write up a while back about the MFS... I'll see if I can find it.
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Old Sep 8, 2014 | 05:32 PM
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https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...l-t306312.html
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