Exactly

 

The LORENZ Leveling Kit was never designed or intended to ride like a Caddy nor have we marketed it as such. The control you get with the leveling kit is astounding and should be what you looking for. There isn't a better OEM replacement front end kit on the market. It's been independently tested and I'll let that speak for it's self.

When I get calls from guys wanting a Caddy like ride, which will please the Mrs, I steered them towards the Dual Purpose Leafs. This is what DP Leafs were made for; soft compliant ride unloaded on road, and a very controlled ride off-road, while still maintaining the OEM GVW.

80% of the rough ride in our trucks is due to the stock leafs. We have two options to cure or semi cure this. The Mini Packs will address the issue partially by replacing PART of the OEM leaf pack, and the Dual Purpose Leafs cures the rough ride by replacing the OEM leafs completely.

If you bought our front leveling kit to cure all of the Dodge's bad handling characteristics then you bought the wrong kit. Step up to one of our full front and rear systems and report back.

A level truck is in the eye of the beholder. If you take a picture from the rear of the truck it will look rear high. If you take the pic from the front of the truck it will look nose high. A shot from the side is deceiving as well. There isn't a line on the truck that's straight. The bed rails are 1.5" taller in the rear, the front fenders are 2" taller than the rear fender and the front and rear bumpers are off as well. If you bought our front springs and are using a set of worn in OEM rear leafs then you will have a front end that will sit slightly higher than a new truck would with the same 6% coils. OEM rear leafs have been known to settle 2-3" over time.

There are a couple of good pictures of JTNM's truck on DTR. He took a couple of shots from the front that make the truck look nose high and a couple from the back that makes the rear look high. Same level driveway, same truck, same day...

Also, a white or silver color paint scheme makes your trucks butt look fat.

Sean

 

http://www.lorenzindustries.com/buildup_johnt225.html

 

The stock ride in my '07 sucked so badly unladen that I couldn't carry on a conversation with a friend here on the freeway. As harsh as the stock ride was,it still bottomed out continuously. Go figure! The worst of all worlds. I added my 2000# popup and it was a disaster waiting to happen. Lorenz to the rescue with his 2.25 setup with camper valving and 23% front coils for my camper weight. It now has a safe,stable ride which is assisted by Carli's long travel airbags. You really need to lower your air pressure somewhat when offroad. Let the tires take up some of the harshness of the track. Everyone who's leveled out their truck would benefit from the mini-paks or his d.p.'s. also. Good luck.

 

Sean,

I noticed that you have a camper in your signature. I was wondering if your DP leafs really make a big differance carry it, or do you still need something like airbags or Timbrens? I have an Outfitter Apex 8 that has a dry weight of 1835 lbs. and I use Timbrens, which work pretty good. I remove them when I have the camper off the truck, which I bet is going to get pretty old after a while. Just looking for something better. Sorry for stealing the thread, thanks.

 

Well my ride is better on the highway bumps, even going down dirt roads that are just full of bumps it rides better when going a little faster. I really like the way it looks too

 

I own the Outfitter Apex 8 as well.

The advertised weight of the camper is way off. As a % it's off more than the Lance 921 that I had. Advertised it runs 1400#.... Yeh right. 2200# semi dry is a more realistic #.

I use, and recommend Firestone Airbags for anything over GVW. GVW on our trucks is 1300-1600# depending on your 3/4 ton truck configuration, ie: short box, long box, single cab, mega cab...

Danderson was able to use my Mini Packs with his Northstar Camper and they held the load adaquately. His camper is in the 1500# range I believe? He'll give you the weights, and all the suspension configurations he's been through. Daves been around the block with all of the suspension companies in one form or another... Kore, Carli, and myself. I'm proud to say he's landed with a combo of LORENZ and Carli equipment on his '07. His second gen had a massaged Kore kit. We revalved that kit for him before he sold it.

 

I have not noticed any settling with the springs in the couple years that I have had them on.

The DP rear springs does help smooth the ride out on the highway.

 

So thats the problem with my silver truck!

 

Let me tell you one thing and it might be my rear spring packs that are helping me out.... But my truck doesn't beat me to death anymore. In stock form it was unbareable.
I can zip in and out of houston traffic at 80-85mph in my big lifted truck no problem. I can take washboard roads at high speeds. None of this was possible in stock form even with the smaller tires.

The thing is as confident as my old shortbed regular cab when I need to cut lanes. And I'm sitting on 35's and weigh a few grand more.
I've been in a truck with coil spacers and cheap shocks and it isn't anywhere close to me.

It's a $40,000 truck, don't throw cheap stuff at it.

Those several thousand dollar kits you refer to are addressing things that my truck will never encounter like desert racing

 

Seems like I might be over an inch in the rear, sits nice and is reasonable for a work truck that will see moderate towing.

You're second paragraph is about what I wanted to say... And I almost did add in my last post "more like a BMW than a Caddy".

 

my post said that your choice of shocks were about as important as your choice of lift. it didn't say that spacers and cheap shocks will improve your ride. also, my truck's stock suspension certainly didn't 'beat me to death' but felt like my front suspension was made of sponge, so firming it up was my primary mission.

 

Sorry for misunderstanding !

I agree with your assesment, shocks are cheap anyway even the good ones. Get good ones.
I don't know about other springed leveling kits so I just speak of what Lorenz has since I've got his components... But I'm sure there are other quality kits out there. The stock front springs suck IMO, I could make them bottom out often and that wasn't with any type of "spirited" driving... doing things like cutting through allyways etc or RR tracks.

FWIW, if you want to address ride you need to tackle the rear springs. I know you can nickel and dime your self to death but for the actual cost of the leaf packs I got it was a bargain no doubt. Maybe like 250-300 bucks if you want to break it down.

Sorry for being long winded .

 

up front i have superlift 2" springs, 1 1/2" spacers, with pro comp es 9000 nitrogen shocks. i'm thinking about trying different shocks to soften up ride. with mickey t mtz's, highway and off road ride was great but with the 35" toyo m/t's the off road stuff is a little harsh- any suggestions? in the rear i'm all stock except for shocks- i guess after years of driving ctd's, i've got used to a little rear end hop when the road gets dicey. thanx.

 

Yeah I've heard some superlift springs are a little stiff, think I read that on here someplace.

I use bilsteins but don't know if they make them for 3.5 inches lift. Contact Lorenz, Thuren, Carli.


Hope that helps.