Wow this got interesting.

I doubt anyone thinks that a truck with big old tires is gonna tow more weight than one with the stock tires but I think this thread was more about seeing what a lifted truck can do. I'm glad to see that truck on page 2 rolling 35's and a couple inches lift in the rear can tow a GN ok because I plan on building up a redneck toyhauler GN, that's why I bought my truck.





But the reality is with a wider stance and quality parts I don't see why it can't tow pretty well. 4.10 gears and 35 inch tires is the same as 265s and 3.73 gears. Same thing goes for the G56 which is geared down to hell, G56 and 4.10 gears.... Why not run 37 inch tires?


For the engineer above, for every inch you go up how much wider must you go? I think that would be the most important thing to learn from this thread.
I know on my ATV with around 6 inches effective lift and going out about 3 inches on each side with a little wider tires it seems as stable as stock.

 

I am sure glad my truck is lifted when I was towing a few weekends ago or it would be in a scrapyard right now. The only thing that saved me when the road caved away was my ground clearance a stock truck wouldn't of looked pretty after but the only wound my truck had was a bent mud flap (that turned into a missing one ). The only thing I will agree with you on is a lifted truck shouldn't be driving as fast, when my truck was stock I had it past 100 MPH a few times, not a chance now 80 MPH max.

I guess you wouldn't like to see me driving down the road pulling a 5th wheel that is a good 6" nose high?

I will say you cannot generalize lifted trucks, once that is lifted 16" isn't going to tow squat, but like 6" is fine.

Maybe if you really want to get technical that means a 2wd tows better then a 4wd? I mean it is lower!

 

WOW not to get personal but if your an engineer you just proved most of us corect in saying most engineers dont know real word situations Let me let you in on a little secret about solid front axles (not IFS).. When your loaded like that picture your camber dosnt change.. so whatever you think you see in that picture your not seing at all, and to tell you the truth i had 2 troopers point and smile and one sheriff followed me for 20 miles and waved as he passed

And before you go judging me on my stacks i live on an island and got sic of huricane evacs draining our fuel stations to i ran stacks so i can hold 100 gallons of fuel (see my pics) so if need be i can get in and out and as far as the mirrors being fold out are you KIDDING ME when you cant see behind you with a big load (wich you seem to know allot about) you flod them out so you can see people next to you that what there there for WOW man WOW

 

That does it....


I`m pullin` all this crap off my truck tommorrow

I`m sure glad my stock stuff is still in the shed

 

haha with all this arguing im about done here cant post anything on DTR without an argument anymore

 

ok man. there's one thing for sure about these forums. if you want someone to twist your words around, youre in the right place. i didnt say anything about mirrors folded out with a big load. i regularly pull a 26 ft trailer with a boat on it however and i can see better with them DOWN. you lose your side to side vision with them out. True, you can see farther out, but the range is lost. My dad folds his out on his dually when he's pulling the 38 ft 5th wheel, otherwise they are DOWN. ....................

about the camber..................camber is a word, not a phenomenon. i know you cant ADJUST the camber, but your wheels can be cambered............as they looked in the picture on my wide screen at work. i looked again, they arent.

 

I think we should start a new thread about 'slammed trucks towing'.



Ah...its all good! I enjoy seeing so many different opinions voiced in a simple thread asking for pics of 'lifted trucks towing'. Imagine if we started to talk politics here!

If anyone has pics of lifted trucks towing --- LETS SEE THEM!!! I'm seriously curious what people are pulling with these trucks!!!

Q: Is there anyone out there that is pulling commercial with a lifted truck? I mean --- legally with USDOT numbers, IFTA tags, etc.

 

there was a guy runnin trailers for fema with a 3 inch on a dually spacers and 35s ide love to see some slammed trucks towing. in miami i see it all guys towing on 22.5s in the dirt and guys on the huge 24.5 towing a bobcat just thoght some guys on here would have some pics didnt mean to start a war LOL

 

This is a simple matter, it boils down to give and take, as long as you maintain a stock gear ratio, albeit as you increase tire size you lower your ring and pinion how is the truck to know the difference? A lifted truck creates more leverage on the suspension geometry as the distance from the axle to the frame is increased, angles on shafts are increased reducing efficiency, and the center of gravity is moved. Center of gravity can be compensated with a wider track width, but with a wider track width the contact patch is usually increased creating more friction, not to mention the added un-sprung weight which will change handling characteristics and have a negative impact on mpg, Aftermarket parts are usually built better then stock and made to compensate for the increased angles and leverage being exerted on the truck. So you can make the truck think that it is still stock as far as gearing goes but to get the good looks your gonna suffer with mpg, My truck is running the stock 3.73 ratio and I rarely use 5 gear when towing and as a matter of fact I rarely use it at all, @ 60 mph I'm turning 1900 rpm in 4th gear..... I go into 5th with no trailer if I'm on a good long stretch at 65+... The steering bugs are hopefully all worked out and I can push it beyond 70 again, I drove it some more tonight and my comfort factor is steadily increasing, I'm still feeling like it wants to wander but it corrects quickly and there is no more slop in the steering....Adding power will help with the mpg but the mass you are moving has increased as well as the friction exerted against it so it's gonna require more fuel to push it. I love the look of my truck but question the efficiency I've lost. But to me it's a worthy trade....

 

This one's done. I apologize to the member that started this thread. Please feel free to post another one, and let us know if it goes off track.

 

Hey - I just saw this pic of your setup. They block certain image hosting sites at work so the pic didn't come up when I saw this yesterday at work.

Are you serious that your rig will pull that with what calculates out to 37" tires with 3.73 gears???????

WOW. That is cool then.

I had 3.73 in mine when I had 35" tires and needed to swap them out for 4.10 gears to pull my 24' Thule Box trailer. Its all aluminum which even empty was a PAIN to pull. Weight wasn't so much a factor as wind drag. This trailer was high and a parachute. Used (I think) a 6" drop receiver just to tray to get it to sit level. Really no difference in mpg between totally empty and loaded with atv and sleds. I'll need to find a pic of that and post.

So.....what sort of mileage you getting with your setup as pictured??? My guess is around 8 - 9 mpg. I get a consistent 12 or so MPG with the Thule between empty or loaded. Empty she weighs maybe 3500 lbs, but like I said its a freakin parachute!!!