I just installed a Brite Box with the Fog Light control on my truck and I am very happy with the results. I can have bright, dim and fog lights on at the same time. The installation was simply a matter of following the instructions and it doesn't require cutting or splicing any wires. I see that Jeno's has kits for '05 trucks so this may be what you are looking for.

For me, it's not a matter of trying to blind the oncoming driver, it's simply a matter of improving what I feel are inadequate headlights on my truck. When an oncoming driver appears I simply flip the brights off like normal.

 

I have to agree, I think it is rude and unsafe not to dim the highbeams at the first sign of oncoming traffic. Thank goodness that is not a problem here. The folks that leave their highs on in incoming traffic get pulled over and DUI tested, as they should. As many others here, I feel the RAM headlights are poor at best. In town, the lows are ok, but they are better with the fogs on (no one has flashed me, well mooned but not flashed, so I guess they're not to brite), particularly when the roads are wet and black. Out here in the sticks, my high beams are worthless. I can't see anything, so I'm forced to use the lows and fogs. They are a saftey hazard as far as I'm concerned. I'm either going to get the Brite Box + fogzilla, or get some Hella driving lights, so I can see a cow or deer standing in a country road when no one else is around & I'm driving 55 or 60.

As for a fashion statement, there were a ton of ricers around here with those blue bulbs, but they have quit using them in the past year or so ( the heavy blue coating on the bulbs actually reduce the "lumens", making it more difficult to see). They did produce an annoying brite white light, so I'm kind of glad to see those bulbs fade away. We did have a deputy sheriff around here that was ticketing all those blue bulb people, but his superiors told him to knock it off though. If I remember right, he wouldn't stop, so they fired him.

 

They're not to light up the road? That's some of the funniest **** I've heard... Oh man, I **** near spit my beer out when I read that. Answer me this then if they don't light the road... why have them on there for the fog then? Hell, if anything, less light is better for foggy situations, that's why you don't use your brights in the fog.

Although, I do beleive I've given you a reason for why I've had lights... perhaps you were the one who was a lonely kid and now all the lights on you make you scared?

You should look into the simple wiring mod as I posted about... then you can flip on your highs for that extra bit out of the regular beams and still allow for the fogs to be on to light up directly in front of you.

 

Thanks Drafter. It's nice to get a couple of folks that actually have an answer to my question. I was asking if someone could tell me how to perform the mod, not if I was morally responsible for wanting to do it.

I still would like to know if someone has an easy (and cheap) way to leave the fog's on while the high's are on. On the 2nd gen's all you did was pull a relay, jumper two points, and voila, fog's on with high or low.

 

Man, are my post just being passed up? Get a small piece of wire not even a foot long, jumper a couple relays under the hood and you're good to got. Fogs with Lows... Fogs with Highs... but also Fogs on as soon as you put the parking lights on as well.

 

Sorry Bubba_CTD, I did miss your post. Pictures work best with us slow learners anyhow. Any way to keep them off when it's just parking light? Thanks.

 

Nope, those relays are the headlight and fog relays... jumpering them turns the fogs on when the lights are on. So yea... as soon as you make that first click for the parking lights, the fogs are on.

 

Bubba, those pictures are great. Thanks for posting them.

I couldn't understand why the fogs would fire with only the parking lamps on so I had to look it up. That larger relay on the right side of your pictures is the "parking lamp relay" according to my manual. That relay doesn't fire the headlights, only the parking lamps so that would explain it.

The headlamps don't have an external relay. It is built into the "Front Control Module".

To answer the original question:
1. You need to run a wire from either the WT/LG or WT/GY wires going to the headlights to the fog light relay. Those wires are for the Left and Right high beams respectively and you can use them to fire the fog lamp relay with the high beams on. Those wire colors aren't confirmed so use a voltmeter to see if those wires are "hot" with the high beams on. Either of those wires can be tied into pin#86 on the fog lamp relay which is the same pin that Bubba has a wire going to on the smaller (left) relay in the pictures.

 

No problemo... just trying to help out.

 

That was sure easier than my way.

 

Hey thanks BUBBA!

I must have missed your post too. Looks good to me, but could that mod result in any electrical melt downs?

 

Oooops. My idea of sending +12v from the wire(s) going to the high beams to pin 86 on the fog lamp relay probably won't work. It looks like Dodge is using ground switching to fire the relays. Back to the drawing board.....

 

The drawing board has a lot of chalk on it but it's becoming clearer now....

I went out and tested the fog lamp relay. Pin 86 fires the relay with ground switching from the computer. The wire Bubba has going to the fog lamp relay is not going to pin 86, it's going to the output side of the relay.....the wire that delivers +12v to the fog lights.

So, there are a couple options for getting the fogs to come on only with the high beams:
1. You could install a switch in the cab, connected to pin 86 on the fog lamp relay that connects to ground when the switch is "on".

2. You could install a relay under the hood that uses the +12v from the high beam wires (WT/LG or WT/GY) to fire the relay, creating a path from pin 86 on the fog lamp relay to ground. The benefits of this option are there wouldn't be an extra switch in your cab (except you daytime running light folks might want one) and the ciruict would have the battery protection feature if you forget to turn off your lights when leaving the truck.