Hi. Im seeing lots of people on here taking the delete road.. So my Question
is Why are you doing it?
My truck is a 2008 3500 dually 4x4 and it runs fine, Dont get codes coming up. I do think it sucks way to much fuel and could use more get up and go
especially when Im towing my 5th wheel.. I weighed the whole rig last week on my way out of town..The total weight of the truck was 11240 so close to 1000lbs under the gvwr of the truck.But the total GVCWR was exactly 22000lbs. so i think Im over the rating on that. the truck has a 373 gear ratio.

So the Question is,, will doing the delete thing do Anything performance wise
or help the mileage??
I dont have a problem doing it If its going to help with either.

Thanks
Dale M

 

I wish you were closer to where Im at, Id let you drive my truck with only the mild Smarty tune.

Driving is believing.

Other notable points to deleting:

1. If you were to see the intake of your truck you would have a heart attack. Bluetec should have been called BlackLung

2. Fuel economy gains (but you already pointed that out)

3. I can idle my truck as long as I feel like it. I know that is not a big deal for some, and may seem like a detriment to others, but there are times where I need to do so.

4. You got lucky having one of the few that have not trouble. I would attribute that to you using the truck towing heavy and giving it a good workout. That allows to the Bluetec system to function.

5. Again, you would just have to drive a deleted truck. Trust me, driving is believing.

 

Pre surgery mpg empty on the hwy 13 on a good day. city 8-10 Towing 5-7.
Post surgery mpg empty is now 19 plus hwy, 13 city and 12-14 towing depending on the load and speeds.
I did net an all time best over 826 miles of 21.3 running empty. The return trip netted 19.84.
Hand calculated. Not the overhead.

My truck weights 9200 pounds with the slip tank and the factory tank full...no passengers.
Long bed Mega Cab 3500 dually 4x4 auto. I used a Smarty for taking care of the last injection event as well as the engine light...and I have a great balance of power and mileage in Software 3 with all options set at 1 except the turbo...vgt...its at 2 which I believe is the factory or default setting.

You will need something in the line of a tuner to help out with the deletes and the check engine light.

Hope this helps.
I look at it this way...no smoke, better power and I am burning way less non renewable resources plus the engine now burns clean...no more exhaust being pumped back through the engine.


Scotty

p.s. I am running B-20 right now. And as Blake stated...it would shock you how BLACK the insides of the intake are. Now...its all clean.

 

The answer is a resounding YES, and then there is the additional piece of mind, potential additional longevity, and not making oil.

 

I fought off the Deletes for 34k, worried about my warranty. After many trips to the dealer I am now on a first name basis with all the guys there (not a good thing), after my last trip (new turbo) I was fed up and deleted. Nothing but good things since, power, mileage way up, response, I feel like this is the way the truck should run from the factory. I have 1600 miles since the last oil change, and no more black soot tar oil, still looks clean and dosent smell...After I pulled the EGR pipe and saw how much soot goes back into the engine, I knew it was the right decision.

 

yeah, but just think of it this way mega. If we all revert our trucks back to stock maybe we can help out by producing enough oil to cover what bp lost in the gulf. It takes millions of years to make oil, but a 6.7 will do it in 5,000 miles.....lol

 

You get the "groan" of the day award...


I do like your logic though!

 

I agree with every thing that was stated by the others who have done the deletes to their trucks.
The only thing I can added is the fuel usage and savings that will occur by doing the deletes.
In the months of Nov 07 through Nov 08, I used 1,096.45 gallons for 12,706.3 miles. I avg 11.6 MPG at today's cost of fuel, that would be $3,179.7 US. For the time period Aug 08 (deletes done) to Aug 09, I used 911.76 Gallons for 13,109.1 miles. I avg 14.4 MPG at today's cost of fuel, that would be $2,644.1 US.
As you can see I drove more miles and used less fuel to do this. I also save on my oil changes. By changing my oil around 6,200 miles instead of the 3,200 or 3,800 miles, I use to get with out the deletes.
This is from my spread sheet that I track my fuel usage and maintenance on.
Jim

 

Just look at the oil of an engine that is stock at 3000 miles, its thick guey muddy messy. A delete truck, the oil is clean at 3000 miles and can go longer it required. Enough reason right there for me.

Try this with a stock truck, remove your air horn and look at your heater grid. Its going to full of carbon/soot. The head is probably starting to plug up as well. Imagen whats on the top of your piston rings.

Remove the air horn on a deleted truck, its clean.

Improvement of 4-5mpg for fuel mileage.

 

The biggest thing for me was the stupid overhead telling me to go drive on the highway for 45 minutes to do a regeneration. I work for myself in town. I DO NOT have an extra random 45 minutes every second day to take a leisurely drive on the highway and burn an extra 1.5 gallons of diesel so the state of California can feel good about itself.

Pull the EGR cooler tube and see the garbage being put back into the engine (I guess thats why Dodge opted for the premium ring kit in the 6.7?)

My intown mileage went up a solid 3 to 4 mpg, highway empty went up 2. Towing mileage stayed the same.

The oil is still clean after 2,000 miles and is not a slurry of black goo.

I need to keep this truck for a long time (hence the Cummins motor) and this will help it go the distance.

 

Excellent data here Jim, the EPA should take note and give the 2007 to 2010 guys a break here just because of having to be the test specimens for something not really required until 2010.

Anyone worried about the cost to invest in the programmer and deletes should take note!

 

How do you yearly inspections and emissions test? My goofy state requires pictures of the emission crap to be photographed at the time and full computer scan. Also on occassion DOT and LEO check the new trucks if there hint of smoke and look underneath? I have wanted a new truck for a while but hate the emission stuff? How much of an investment is it to do it right?

 

I have no idea really yet as I did not have to smog the truck this year. Maybe next year though... . If needed, I will revert until after the testing.

That is why I've done the minimal needed to delete/disable, yet get the full benefits of doing so.

Smarty Jr. ~ $400.
Delete Pipe: ~ $175 (or less if you just make your own or have a muffler shop do it).

I wonder, are there going to be special inspection stations just for the Diesel trucks? Or, are the shops that do all the gas vehicle going to have the equipment to check? Seems like a bit of in infrastructure issue as I have not heard anything about the process for diesels here in So Cal, yet.

 

I wish Smarty would come out with a 2010 model. I want to delete this crap so **** bad. Changing oil at 3k miles and having it look so black and thick is killing me! I really don't want the H&S cause I know I will kick myself wishing I would have held out for a smarty.

 

Diesel Power had a write up on in June or July for california, It would entail visual inspection and computer test. Any mods must be EB approved. Then a puff test. Basicly they will floor the accelerator in nutral 3 time. Any smoke on flooring 2 or 3 you fail, unless computer says in a regen mode. If i recall it correctly.