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Why wont both my tires spin if my truck has a limited slip??

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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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Let me sum it up for ya, What we have is junk. Worthless, inferior, shamefully, & embarrassing. When it comes to what a pick up truck is supposed to do this AAM limited slip is out to lunch!!!
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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So where is the best place to buy a posi to put in the rear end. I hate that one tire spinning all the time. All i want to do is go sideways around corners and do some donuts every once in a while. Is that too much to ask???
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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My truck was suposed to have one,& didn't.All you have to do is open the diff plug,& look inside with a flash light.If you see a mass of steel where the carrier is.It has a LSD.If you see spider gears,It's an open diff.My dealer put mine in a few months ago,& it is night & day...But it does need a little resistance on the tire thats spinning to operate it.One tire on ice,& the other on pavement,& it will spin.Engageing the E-Brake while the tire is spinniing won't work verry well.Get the tire stoped first,& then try the E-Brake.
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoss
For what it's worth, my '03 has the LS differential and it will ALWAYS spin both tires regardless of what the driving surface is (even if each tire is on a different driving surface like grass and concrete). I've never had a limited slip differential that works as well as this one.
I have to agree with him. I have owned five of these trucks all with limited slip, and all performed perfectly on wet or dry pavement including snow and ice. My '05 will melt both tires to the nearest half-inch. This was just partly rolling onto the throttle. I had to let off as I was almost pointed to the ditch.

Even my '94 seems to be just as good with 208K miles with the original diff. oil, just no power to really prove it.

I wouldn't recommend aftermarket fixes until I determined what was wrong.

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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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I am going to pull the plug and check with the flash light tomorrow.
bigwheels94- thanks for the tip I did not think of just pulling the plug

this is crazy
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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Lol, nice bumps. Stop sign ahead?
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by doug60
Let me sum it up for ya, What we have is junk. Worthless, inferior, shamefully, & embarrassing. When it comes to what a pick up truck is supposed to do this AAM limited slip is out to lunch!!!
I have to disagree with you. Maybe it is the difference in setups, i am running 37's. I really like mine off road, and on road. Off road it performs to my standards, you have to rememeber it is a limited slip, not a locker.

53 ****** - It sounds like you are either missing your limited, or it is not working right.

I thought the power wagon lockers fit in the front of these axles? did i hear wrong?
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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I found an Eaton E-Locker Part #19622 in NY. My drive-line shop called EATON and got the info on how to modify the differential to install it.

(If you want one, PM me for the info, as the shop had 2, so one is left)

I took the truck out on snow and into a snow covered field... also on some limited ice. The Trac-Rite does work and is actually fairly good until I loose all traction on one side. Then it's open dif time. Also, while moving it performs better.

For plowing that's not the case. Pushing snow into the field (to get out of the way and make room for more snow) Backing up is where I usually end up in trouble. Or if a front wheel drops into a dip/hole, or worse if I go off camber to far. :-( This is when I get both a single front and rear tire spinning and have to use the winch IF a tree is close enough. Or the come-along.

The e-locker will fix that. Lift plow, lock front, switch into 4 low, and crawl out. Simple. I love 4 low. With the plow weight and the Cummins I have PLENTY of weight on the front axle. I wonder what the weight ratio is? 70% 30% (unloaded)

Anyone know if the E-locker will mess up my ABS? I just thought of this...
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by cquestad
Or...maybe you still have not mastered brake modulation...cause if your good enought at it...you can make open diffs drive like lockers.
This couldn't be further from the truth. Anyone experienced with lockers and using them off-road knows the two are not even comparable. A LSD is completely useless in any type of slow off-road situation. A LSD will NEVER lock-up like a true locker and provide the same traction.

Once you've had lockers you realize how useless a LSD really is off-road.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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I have lockers...in an old Pinz and a CJ-5. I know what I am talking about.

Yours must not be working right or missing. I am not stating the LSD in these trucks are as good as lockers...I am just stating they work better than any other LSD I have used (6 or 7).
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by cquestad
I have lockers...in an old Pinz and a CJ-5. I know what I am talking about.

Yours must not be working right or missing. I am not stating the LSD in these trucks are as good as lockers...I am just stating they work better than any other LSD I have used (6 or 7).
Mine works fine...just like a LSD should. Far from a real locker though.

You did state "you can make open diffs drive like lockers". That's just not the case in any situation where one tire has significantly more traction than the other (spinning) tire. The slower you're moving the less effective the LSD is too (and this happens to be when traction is usually needed most). The only time the LSD will really help is when both tires have near equal traction.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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Where I live we have approx 5 feet of standing snow, snow banks over 10 feet. When I pulled my snowbile trailer out, complete with 2 snowmobiles on it, I was in 4 feet of snow, and the trailer jack was froze down to the ground. My truck in 4 hi, just pulled it out like nobodys business, I then drove through the lower yard and climbed straight up the hill in the snow. That was with 3/4 wore out toyo at's. I do not have any issues with my l slip rearend, works as advertised, everytime. I had a chevy before that had the gov unit,, now there is a pos. It has a little piece of pot metal that drops down between the spider gears to lock it up..... well under abuse guess what happens to pot metal when it gets stressed. mine broke right off and wedged itself in the crown, which then took it for a ride right through the pan cover. slick


Kevin

53, I would definately get yours looked at,, there is something definately wrong there.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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I know the LSD in my truck is still working great. Even when I was doing some slow off roading it kept both rear tires locked together and it's got 120k on it. Never had a problem with one wheel drive. I'd say take yours into the dealer and tell them to fix it cause something doesn't sound right.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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If you try hard enough....with enough brake...you can force all 4 tires to spin the same speed no matter what. Period.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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The Dana axles on my '98 have clutch-type limited slip and the AAM axles on my '05 have the gear-type Torsen limited slip.

Both have performed well on all surfaces, though I'm prepared to engage the E-brake on the '05 if necessary to increase the prevailing torque in the rear differential.
Though these new AAMs don't have any clutches to wear, they sure do grab harder around the corners - rear tire wear is quite a bit more on this truck (and no, not due to my right foot! )

Never been stuck - EVER - but the only time it's been hard to get out of a field or ditch is when the BFGs loaded up with wet clay... I'd get out of the truck and walk around it, watching all four tires slowly spin in 4LO at idle.

Hopefully, the new 37" x 13.5" Toyo MTs will solve that as well...
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