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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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What makes downloaders detectable?

Why are downloaders so easily detected by a dealer???? What makes the Smarty different???? Has anyone tried to get warranty work done with a smarty yet???? Not ******* smarty just trying to learn..... By the way I am also not trying to rip off my dealer I have one of the few who are cool with mods.........
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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From what I understand on Bullydog is that it goes in are overwrites the factory ecm's memory and put it's own program in. Thus when you go back to "stock" it is not the same.. There is a break in the memory? Not sure about the smarty just got one today!!! Unfortunately the truck goes is to the shop tomorrow for more darned death wobble. I am sure someone more knowledgeable than me will chime in... maybe Bob Wagner...

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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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Thanks for the reply guys ............ about the death wobble getting rid of the BFG's fixed mine...... might not be your problem but it was mine......
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CDoskocil9
Thanks for the reply guys ............ about the death wobble getting rid of the BFG's fixed mine...... might not be your problem but it was mine......
I had the death wobble before the bfg's.. Both ball joints were shot.. I those these are soft I might have to go and get some Toyo's..

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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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I see .......... My track bar was shot too have you checked that?????
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CDoskocil9
I see .......... My track bar was shot too have you checked that?????
No, Haven't had time.. That kinda sad to say seems how when I hit a pot hole it shakes until I stop!!! I drop it off at the dealer tomorrow.. I will let them figure it out!!

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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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Are you still going to make the 4 gauge pod?????
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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they leave footprints in the ecm just like when you download a program to a pc and then delete it. There are things still on the hardrive that arent oem
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CDoskocil9
Are you still going to make the 4 gauge pod?????
Where you been man?? I just have the final coat to put on this weekend and install them.. They lign up perfectly the pic makes the fuel pressure guage looks like it's facin the passenger but it actually points right at you!!!

Here is a little tease!!!

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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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Sweet sign me up........... By footprints in the ECM how do these actually prove they are from a downloader?????
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CDoskocil9
Sweet sign me up........... By footprints in the ECM how do these actually prove they are from a downloader?????
I believe the key cycles is the main give away. and suposively when programmed back to stock it is not the true cummins stock program it is the downloader's stock program which was written by the company itself..

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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 12:47 AM
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What about the Edge EZ? Does it leave a footprint? I heard that it doesn't but .......
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 01:07 AM
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Those are true things but, the ECM also logs data. It will store things such as fuel amount used or injected, boost, injection pressure, commanded pressure, and all sorts of stuff that the downloaders change.

The plug in boxes block the ECM from seeing the real data.
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