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Towing with Smarty?? also, quest on boost fooling..

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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Smokeman
The outlook can be used as a stand alone unit, or it can be used with the triple dog, or it can be used with other programmers, but you can only change levels on the fly if used with the triple dog. The outlook even has a menu to configure it to different vehicles. That is how it works on my 06, you should call them and find out if the same applies to your 07.

On edit: The only time my outlook remains blank is when it is not plugged into the OBD port. As soon as it is plugged back in after programming it works. Sometimes I have to reselect the vehicle. You need to call them and make sure you have the right version of outlook for your or your buddies truck.
cool thanks, ill give them a ring today cause the outlook is what i really wanted.. i almost was gonna get the triple just to use the outlook but i really think the smarty is better.. ill let you knwo what they say
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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I didn't see it on the site, but in the past, it has been discussed and recommended that you do not tow on level 1 due to the increased amount of timing programmed into it. I believe level 1 was written for fuel economy while not towing.
whats funny is i figured level 1 and 2 would yield the best fuel economy but i just switched to level 7 and picked up 5mpg.. i was on avg 13.2-14 max avg.. now i am sitting on 18.6 and 19-20 highway.. the truck drives like its lost 2k lbs compared to level 2 which i was on for a couple weeks..
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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Remember that the on-board computer is affected by a programmer. When you figure your mileage, always calculate it yourself to get the most accurate figures.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Totallyrad
Remember that the on-board computer is affected by a programmer. When you figure your mileage, always calculate it yourself to get the most accurate figures.

please explain.. i know its not dead accurate but if you know what the overhead was reading every week and then you swap modes from 2-7 and it reads 5mpg higher regardless if it was right on 13mpg or 18mpg it still went up correct??
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Deezuhl77
please explain.. i know its not dead accurate but if you know what the overhead was reading every week and then you swap modes from 2-7 and it reads 5mpg higher regardless if it was right on 13mpg or 18mpg it still went up correct??
its off. Hand calculate....you'll see. on higher programmer settings, mine stays at 20+mpg all the time. in reality, im getting 15-20mpg depending on the situation.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 09:19 AM
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The overhead computer relies on information from sensors that also get input from the main ECM. A programmer sometimes changes the signals from some of these sensors causing erroneous readings in the overhead.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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ok, ill be filling up today so ill calculate it up at the end of the tank since i switched to level 7 with only 1/4 tank left it wont be right..

whats the best way to calculate it.. run it down to when the light comes on and then figure 31gallons divided by miles??
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 09:54 AM
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Reset the odometer and on the next fill-up, divide the number of miles driven by the gallons used. But, Dodge has one more curve to throw at you, it's time consuming to fill our trucks to the same point each time unless you do the tank vent mod. In lew of that, you have to trickle fuel into the tank until it's completely full. Most trucks take 2+ gallons after the nozzle clicks off the first time.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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t-rad beat me!
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Deezuhl77
the red paper it came with says do not tow on level 1 timing is too aggressive..
Thanks for getting back to me. Of course, my red paper says nothing about towing, so I will PM Bob. It'd be a darn shame if I have to tow at a higher level than level one.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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Thanks for getting back to me. Of course, my red paper says nothing about towing, so I will PM Bob. It'd be a darn shame if I have to tow at a higher level than level one.


The number 1 software is in regards to the vp44 smarty not the common rail smarty

software 1 is the fuel saver program for the 98.5-02 trucks

Software 1 is fine for the CR trucks


carry on
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