I just installed H2 wheels on my truck. The centre hole was machined on a milling machine to 4.774 inch. But it seems the H2 wheels fit very tight compared with stock steel wheels. I feel kinda stupid startin this thread again, but is the fit supposed to be tight as like someone put it, the Dodge has hubcentric wheels?

For tires I got a set of Toyo Open Country A/T's, 285/70. I like them so far and they really improve the look of the truck.

 

Dodge wheels are known for being loose. The tighter the better balance you will get.

 

there are definately a "snug" fit...but nothing to worry about....i'm 20,000 strong on my H2 wheels..no problems...have stayed balance..etc.
in my opinion the wheels are lugcentric....not hubcentric...

 

If the lug nut-to-wheel mating surface is tapered, the wheel is lugcentric and should have clearance at the hub to allow the lugs to center it. If the lug nut-to-wheel mating surface is flat, the wheel should be hubcentric and be a tight fit on the hub.

Rusty

 

Many vehicles have both. One example is the Jeep Cherokee. They have a very tight hubcentric and tapered lugs also. Many vehicles are this way.

 

I guess it depends on the definition of "snug". If it is truly hubcentric (i.e., wheel to hub clearance of no more than a few thousandths) and has tapered lug nuts, then the machining layout for the studs had better be absolutely accurate. Otherwise, if the wheel is tight on the hub and the stud layout is off, the tapered lug nuts will not seat evenly. The result could be lug nuts loosening or stud failure from bending stress.

Sound engineering design practice says that one defines what design feature will locate the component, and then makes everything associated with that feature a critical dimension. If one tries to have two design features locate the component, they can (and often do) conflict with each other.

Rusty

 

Yeah but I am not giving you good engineering practice, just how some vehicles are made and have been made as long as I can remember. These are the vehicles with tapered nuts that from time to time will rust onto the hub and be a real problem to get off. If you remember the old chrysler products with the bolts instead of nuts were this way also.

 

Ummm.....OK, whatever you say. It's not worth debating.

Rusty

 

I can always buy the tapered lug nuts, or would it be better to leave the tight fit and just put some copperkote on, so wheel and hub don's seize?

 

Hey Redneck1,

I looked into getting some H2 wheels, and still may get some, and all the research I turned up says our wheels are lugcentric. I AM NOT AN EXPERT nor do I have H2 wheels but, in my opinion if you are going to "wallow" out the hub to fit then you better hope it is lugcentric, just my 2 cents. Everybody I talked to on the forum who had the H2 wheels just "wallowed" out the hubs and none of them had any problems so make your own conclusions. If my wheels were too tight I would probably hit the hubs again, BUT that being said, if you already have the wheels mounted and have no problems then I dont know if I would necessarily change anything. Let us know and put up a pic, I do love those H2 wheels.....:?)

 

I have my center bore machined to "tight" tolerances and the lugs still center in each hole.

Maybe you can say I am hub and lug centric! The lugs are tapered so the centerbore can be loose and the wheel will still center fine.

I believe everyone is "over engineering" this one...

 

Ok so I am confused. Are they lug centric or hub cenrtic? I have no problems with mine thus far, but I don't want to have my tires wear prematurely. Is there a definite answer on this one?

 

They have taper lug nuts...lug centric. I was just saying that if you machine the centerbore with some precision that they can be both. Hog them out so they clear the hubs and bolt them up. It will be fine. Just make sure they are balanced lug centric!