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Old Mar 4, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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pulling a dozer

I just want to know what you guys think i should do to my truck. So i can move all of my own equipment. The dozer being the biggest at just under 19,000# plus 7,500# gooseneck. Can i build my truck to handle that kinda weight on a pretty regular basis. The weight voids out the warranty so i'm not to worried about that.
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Old Mar 4, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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dont you have a small dump truck for haulin that around? that is a TON of weight on your truck and even to stop it. even a smaller single axle dump would handle that alot better, altho a bumper pull tandem would be needed instead of the gooseneck
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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So is that 3500 a drw or srw. I haul way over that weight all the time. Firstly you need a drw. The trailer needs great brakes and needs to be able to have the available gvwr ...ie 20 to 25k gvrw. The truck needs an ebrake preferrably the new pacbrake with ideally a 6 spd. Depending on the state you can haul this load completely legally. At absolute worst you can add an "add a tag axle" and/or get the truck gvrw and gcrw upped by the/an upgrader installer. These axles are commonly done by co's that prep tiltbed wreckers. They are air or hydraulically actuated to drop. The gooseneck ball is located between the two axles. All axles brake. 26,500# + 8,000k is doable. Haulin in Dixie regularly carries 34k combined. pm him if you want more info. This is a load for a stock 550 or 5500 but can be done on a properly prepped 3500 chassis. ks
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 06:47 AM
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I have seen Dodge duallies around here pull dozers. Like abc4yew said, need a dually, preferably with a 6spd manual and a tandem axle dual wheel gooseneck with very good brakes.

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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 07:54 AM
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You be ok with that weight , a dually would be best plus 6 speed. If you have singles on you truck, you will have some sway with that weight. And if your in city traffic very long, I think an auto is going to get hot in a hurry. I ran single tires on my past trucks and never had any trouble, but after owning a dually I will never go back. Never tell a cummins owner he can't
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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My truck is a SRW and has a auto tranny. I live in Ohio pretty sure i would be legal have my class A CDL. So to build this truck properly for this kinda abuse not gonna go to the extent of a tag axle but but the mopar exhaust is on order and soon after rear air bags
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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Some upgrades to your tanny would help a lot. Maybe a better TC and VB to help it pull. and a better cooler or deeper pan would keep the tranny cooler than just the stock parts. It's very doable. We've done it several times on the truck in my sig with overload springs, it's just a 2500 and as mentioned stopping is the hardest part.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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My truck is a SRW and has a auto tranny. I live in Ohio pretty sure i would be legal have my class A CDL. So to build this truck properly for this kinda abuse not gonna go to the extent of a tag axle but but the mopar exhaust is on order and soon after rear air bags

Since your truck is a SRW, don't you think you should probably upgrade your wheels and tires? I would be concerned about the rear tires with that much weight.

These guys probably have some rims that would work and allow you to run a much stiffer, heavier tire. http://www.ricksontruck.com/

I have seen some SRW trucks here that carry very heavy Truck Campers and these seemed to help with the load.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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Guys, after seeing this I'm sure a SRW truck could tow anything once. I'd still check with DOT in your state or at a scale. If you were in an accident and were in the right....you'd soon be in the wrong if you were towing beyond your limits. If your doing something all the time you should check it out....IF it is only once in a while I'd just be real careful. That dozer and trailer would push you and your unlocked auto to hell and back on a bad downhill. All the best. ks

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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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i pull a d3 cat (17500) with my truck. and would not recommend doing this with an auto and single wheel all of the time. a 6speed dually will pull the snot out of it. (i can almost see my truck smile when i am backing under this load ) the stock auto trannies are inadequate to pull this load all of the time. now let us talk about stopping this is where the fun come in. have you ever been pushed through a stop sign? have you ever had a dream that you are pushing the peddle but the car wont stop....that is the potential...at very min get a 6 speed dually with 4.10s to do this work with an exhaust brake.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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i pull a d3 cat (17500) with my truck and would not recommend doing this with an auto and single wheel all of the time. a 6speed dually will pull the snot out of it though. (i can almost see my truck smile when i am backing under this load ) the stock auto trannies are inadequate to pull this load around town all of the time. now let us talk about stopping, this is where the fun comes in...not. have you ever been pushed through a stop sign? have you ever had a dream that you are pushing the peddle but the car wont stop....that is the potential...for safety reasons at very min get a 6 speed dually with 4.10s to do this work with an exhaust brake for everyday operations. JMHO
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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I pulled a D3 Komatsu....I think its the same as the Cat variant. I had a job with the local John Deere dealership pulling tractors on a gooseneck, it was scary because I had to use a 3500 Chevy Dmax with an auto tranny and no e-brake of any sort! It was chipped with an edge box but nothing but service brakes to stop that monster on the hills around here in middle TN. I had a couple loads that made me pucker.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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arent trailers of this size legally required to have brakes on them, regardless of what is pulling them?
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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Since you have a CDL A, get a bigger truck. At a minimum, you have to legally support the weight carried and a SRW is not going to do it. How much do you want to spend in repair parts and upgrades? You really have two options since you will be doing this regularlly, I take it. Either hire out the hauling when needed or get a Medium duty truck.

What kind of pin weight do you guy aim for when pulling so much as a percentage of towed weight? On a semi and trailer, how much of the trailer weight gets put on the semi percentagewise? 5th wheel trailers are suppose to be in the 20-25% range, at least for RVs.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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20% give or take a few%
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