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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 05:43 AM
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How many are using a pre-filter?

How many are using a pre-filter? OK, I know that is NOT a pre-filter, it's a Baldwin 3/8" inline strainer (BF1173). Also, I know my Carter is a piece of $%^%$, but with 18psi and 77,000 miles, I'm not sure about that.

I was advised, some time back that using a inline strainer in the winter would wax-up in the colder winter weather and stop my truck from starting so I removed it. Know I'm thinking the person that gave this advise was talking about on his tractor (farm equipment) and maybe he was using farm fuel and does it come with anti-gel in it like #2 diesel at the pump?

Who if any are using a pre filter?

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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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I use the same filters but I'm in TX so I'm no help. I would suggest some stainless hose clamps though.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 06:53 AM
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I have removed the inline strainer from every farm tractor I have owned. That is the first place it will jell, I learned the hard way.

I run #2 with conditioner all winter in my tractors.

Maybe you will get by with it but if you do have trouble look their first, and carry a piece of hose and the tools to remove it on the side of the road.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 07:54 AM
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You can also insulate that filter/strainer to assist in heat retention.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RAMRODD
I have removed the inline strainer from every farm tractor I have owned. That is the first place it will jell, I learned the hard way.

I run #2 with conditioner all winter in my tractors.

Maybe you will get by with it but if you do have trouble look their first, and carry a piece of hose and the tools to remove it on the side of the road.
Thanks RAMRODD, I believe you were the one that advised me not to use one.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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I don't have a strainer, but use a GDP 2-micron filter (big line kit) after the stock fuel filter and heater. The fuel should be warmed up by the time it passes through the stock and 2micron filters on its way to the cp3. I haven't had a problem yet, but I don't have a fuel pressure gauge yet, so can't verify any loss in pressure though.

-Chris
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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I'm running a strainer, and haven't had any problems with it...although, I always run Schaeffer's winter diesel treat mixed with the B20.

--Eric
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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A remoter filter will cold foul long before a strainer...

Get a heater for the 2 micron spin on and don't look back.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by cquestad
A remoter filter will cold foul long before a strainer...

Get a heater for the 2 micron spin on and don't look back.
Yes, but the higher micron rating will aid in decreased gelling.. And really gelling shouldn't be a HUGE issue if the fuel is properly winterized. But that is the reason my 2 mic is underhood after the OE fuel heater.


To the OP. Why don't you swap the location of the pump and the Baldwin (looks like a 1212). The 1212 is actually designed as a vacuum filter so no issues there. Then your getting clean dry fuel to the pump.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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To the OP. Why don't you swap the location of the pump and the Baldwin (looks like a 1212). The 1212 is actually designed as a vacuum filter so no issues there. Then your getting clean dry fuel to the pump.[/QUOTE]

Your correct, that is a Baldwin 1212. I wish someone would have giving me this advise before I drilled holes in the frame and mounted everything. Maybe I should run a longer rubber tube to the Baldwin 1212, then make a loop back to the pump, then up, that wouldn't look very good.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AlCorr
Your correct, that is a Baldwin 1212. I wish someone would have giving me this advise before I drilled holes in the frame and mounted everything. Maybe I should run a longer rubber tube to the Baldwin 1212, then make a loop back to the pump, then up, that wouldn't look very good.
How often do folks look under your truck?

When I add an aux LP I plan to plumb it after the 1212, even if its mounted before the 1212 on the frame.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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How often do folks look under your truck?

When I add an aux LP I plan to plumb it after the 1212, even if its mounted before the 1212 on the frame.
I agree, but if I put my LP after the filter, this Carter will probably last another 70,000 miles.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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I agree, but if I put my LP after the filter, this Carter will probably last another 70,000 miles.
Exactly, so just leave them where they are and replumb them. Then you also have enough hose on the truck to bypass the LP if it fails.. The CP3 is a vacuum pump, so you will be able to bypass the LP and still run.

I think i would leave the 1212 as is, and flip the carter.. Then you go from the tank to the 1212 (in the back), out the front of the 1212 to the Carter (flip the carter so you come in the front), the out the back of the carter to the engine.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 05:05 AM
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[QUOTE=ah64id;2285141]Exactly, so just leave them where they are and replumb them. Then you also have enough hose on the truck to bypass the LP if it fails.. The CP3 is a vacuum pump, so you will be able to bypass the LP and still run.

Thanks for the advise, I'm going to leave them mounted as is and re-plumb. From the tank to the back of 1212, out the front of 1212 I'll make a big "S" with the rubber tube to the back of the Carter, Then out the front of the Carter and up.


Back to my first question; Is anyone using a pre-filter? Do they get any waxing in the winter?
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 08:21 AM
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Back to my first question; Is anyone using a pre-filter? Do they get any waxing in the winter?
Yep, I am. No waxing. I use Schaeffer's winter diesel treat though, but also run B20 which is more susceptible to gelling than regular ole #2.

--Eric
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