high idle on an 03
as soon as i find a dealer that doesnt want to over charge me i will let you know. im not sure if they should charge me or not, since my truck is still in warranty. 
Policy: Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty

Policy: Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty
Now that is downright hilarious! 

Multiple posts indicating it DOES work and IS available, a TSB issued by DC themselves indicating it is available, and the supposed "authority" saying no way no how it doesn't work.
This has got to be the most blatant example of the tech authority not having a clue I have ever seen!
I wonder what continent he was from?
Just one more question, did he ask if you wanted to super-size that?


Multiple posts indicating it DOES work and IS available, a TSB issued by DC themselves indicating it is available, and the supposed "authority" saying no way no how it doesn't work.

This has got to be the most blatant example of the tech authority not having a clue I have ever seen!

I wonder what continent he was from?Just one more question, did he ask if you wanted to super-size that?

This is my next call - to Marco or Bob. One question.......What kind of cruise buttons do you have? The teardrop shaped ones or the squared ones?
Good luck getting it working on the 03's.. I really like having it... with the EB my EGTs are 625* at 1100... that warms the engine up FAST.. like 5-6 minutes in 20* weather..
Also.... its fast idle, not high idle... high idle is rated rpm w/ no load...
Well......tomato, tomatoe ! The 3cyl. idle feature was there before my last reflash?!? You know......just for what its worth, and for your information, I'd like for this to work. If you don't have any constructive advice, you can feel free to refrain. I'd rather not pay 6-7 hundred dollars for a Smarty, just to get high idle. I may buy a Smarty for other reasons though! What I would like to get is a "fast" idle that I figured out myself and paid less than ten bucks for! Also.......why would it be "high IDLE" if it was at rated rpm's? Kinda sounds like an oxymoron to me. If it were at rated rpm's it would not be an idle.
It has to do with and when the ECM change came about.From a D.C. setup to a Cummins set up. D.C. ECM "NO Fast IDLE"by cruise system and NO way to download the software program much less turn it on.Somewhere in 04 or 04.5 Cummins software was used had to have fast idle program downloaded and then needed it enabled.Then 04.5? UP has the software already and just needed it ENABLED. This is the way I read the TSB's way back when the cruise control high idle was brought up and discussed early on(few years ago) Am I missing something?
It has to do with and when the ECM change came about.From a D.C. setup to a Cummins set up. D.C. ECM "NO Fast IDLE"by cruise system and NO way to download the software program much less turn it on.Somewhere in 04 or 04.5 Cummins software was used had to have fast idle program downloaded and then needed it enabled.Then 04.5? UP has the software already and just needed it ENABLED. This is the way I read the TSB's way back when the cruise control high idle was brought up and discussed early on(few years ago) Am I missing something?
Yea and about this 3cyl warm up thing.Once in a BLUE moon this is stated by a 03 owner.Yet folks posting from all over the far north and these freeze your tail off states NEVER mention it.I think some of the few that says their 3rd GEN does this have trucks that don't run good cold.All I've EVER read on the 3cyl cold start was on 2nd gens that were programed for it and it was NOT carried over to a 3rd gen.My truck starts and runs SMOOTH except for the grid heater cycling in 10 degrees without being plugged in.It starts and jumps to 1000 rpm no smoke no romp just a clean running engine.This was improved with the Rottech crank sensor mod.
Well......tomato, tomatoe ! The 3cyl. idle feature was there before my last reflash?!? You know......just for what its worth, and for your information, I'd like for this to work. If you don't have any constructive advice, you can feel free to refrain. I'd rather not pay 6-7 hundred dollars for a Smarty, just to get high idle. I may buy a Smarty for other reasons though! What I would like to get is a "fast" idle that I figured out myself and paid less than ten bucks for! Also.......why would it be "high IDLE" if it was at rated rpm's? Kinda sounds like an oxymoron to me. If it were at rated rpm's it would not be an idle.
I would like to see it work too.. Its a great feature.
This TSB and this TSB discuss the New Cummins ECM PN vs the Chrysler PN.
Reading that first one it looks like just the programing has changed on the ECM, not the ECM it self. This TSB is the one that states that its for the pre 325 motor... so one would think it would work in 03.. .but the TSB isn't list for 03's.. just early 04's.
So I guess its up in the air.. some work.. some dont...
What does it take for the early 04's to get it to work with a manual? I assume its a different ECM?
Just figure out a NEAT way to use a manual locking throttle cable work off the floor feed for a MANUAL FAST/HIGH controlled by our OWN fingers idle!:
I bought some of the stuff to do such just with being ill and such I never got back to it.
I bought some of the stuff to do such just with being ill and such I never got back to it.
Yea and about this 3cyl warm up thing.Once in a BLUE moon this is stated by a 03 owner.Yet folks posting from all over the far north and these freeze your tail off states NEVER mention it.I think some of the few that says their 3rd GEN does this have trucks that don't run good cold.All I've EVER read on the 3cyl cold start was on 2nd gens that were programed for it and it was NOT carried over to a 3rd gen.My truck starts and runs SMOOTH except for the grid heater cycling in 10 degrees without being plugged in.It starts and jumps to 1000 rpm no smoke no romp just a clean running engine.This was improved with the Rottech crank sensor mod.
No, you are exactly right Houndog. I was just hoping since having the flash ( and it updates the part number to that comparable to an 05 ) that I could reverse engineer it to work! After talking to STAR, I concede that it can't happen that way. Now.....I'm hoping to work something out thru the PTO circuit. We'll see!
By the way I did talk to a GURU that taught at a voc.school.Auto science.He said why not just TRICK the cruise so it can come on at a standstill etc.He said "I would need to look at wiring diagrahams" but don't think it would be real difficult.This conversaion took place in 04.He mentioned more on the subject but that was the jest of it.
Yea and about this 3cyl warm up thing.Once in a BLUE moon this is stated by a 03 owner.Yet folks posting from all over the far north and these freeze your tail off states NEVER mention it.I think some of the few that says their 3rd GEN does this have trucks that don't run good cold.All I've EVER read on the 3cyl cold start was on 2nd gens that were programed for it and it was NOT carried over to a 3rd gen.My truck starts and runs SMOOTH except for the grid heater cycling in 10 degrees without being plugged in.It starts and jumps to 1000 rpm no smoke no romp just a clean running engine.This was improved with the Rottech crank sensor mod.
I also really don't care what most HD diesel shops call it, if it is idle - it is below rated rpm. Whatever dude.


