Dyno Results, 2005 Ram w/Edge @ AFE
You guys have some anomoly of a truck. 99% of the 600 trucks I've seen stock dyno graphs show peak hp in the 270-275 HP range and peak TQ in the 520 range. 300HP does NOT sound correct, neither does 298HP. I'm not calling either of you liars, but your trucks are out of the norm for "stock" numbers.
I'm not sure if it makes a difference, but my truck is a 2005 Cummins 610, not a 600, and the engine had the AFE Stage 2 intake and Proguard 7 air filter on it for all runs. Also, the Juice Attitude was installed, but on Level "0" which they claim is the "stock" calibration.
Stock setting (Level "0"): 300.4 HP 576.9 ft/lbs
Level 1 Setting: 353.9 HP 654.9 ft/lbs -- Gain of + 53.5 HP 78.0 ft/lbs
Level 2 not tested (limited runs.)
Level 3 Setting: 398.0 HP 755.1 ft/lbs -- Gain of + 97.6 HP 178.2 ft/lbs
Level 4 Setting: 419.7 HP 798.0 ft/lbs -- Gain of +119.3 HP 221.1 ft/lbs
Level 5 Setting: 439.4 HP 831.1 ft/lbs -- Gain of +139.0 HP 254.2 ft/lbs
As for the dyno numbers, they are what was displayed on the dyno sheet the operator gave me, and that was SAE corrected Rear Wheel HP/TQ, not the "true" measured HP/TQ for that altitude/humidity/temperature. I believe the correction factor on my Dyno sheet was 1.07, so take it for what it is - I'm not lying about it.
I din't think posting the dyno numbers would create such a large discussion. I just wanted the readers to know that the products actually worked as advertised, and what results you may get with a simular setup.
BTW, although the dyno numbers look impressive, my 1986 Ram W150 with a built 360 is still quicker in the 1/4 mile. I think the main reason the 2005 Cummins truck is slow is the stock transmission has way too much slipage/loose converter. I hate waiting for the transmission to shift when the engine is at the governor speed.
Stock setting (Level "0"): 300.4 HP 576.9 ft/lbs
Level 1 Setting: 353.9 HP 654.9 ft/lbs -- Gain of + 53.5 HP 78.0 ft/lbs
Level 2 not tested (limited runs.)
Level 3 Setting: 398.0 HP 755.1 ft/lbs -- Gain of + 97.6 HP 178.2 ft/lbs
Level 4 Setting: 419.7 HP 798.0 ft/lbs -- Gain of +119.3 HP 221.1 ft/lbs
Level 5 Setting: 439.4 HP 831.1 ft/lbs -- Gain of +139.0 HP 254.2 ft/lbs
As for the dyno numbers, they are what was displayed on the dyno sheet the operator gave me, and that was SAE corrected Rear Wheel HP/TQ, not the "true" measured HP/TQ for that altitude/humidity/temperature. I believe the correction factor on my Dyno sheet was 1.07, so take it for what it is - I'm not lying about it.
I din't think posting the dyno numbers would create such a large discussion. I just wanted the readers to know that the products actually worked as advertised, and what results you may get with a simular setup.
BTW, although the dyno numbers look impressive, my 1986 Ram W150 with a built 360 is still quicker in the 1/4 mile. I think the main reason the 2005 Cummins truck is slow is the stock transmission has way too much slipage/loose converter. I hate waiting for the transmission to shift when the engine is at the governor speed.
How to resolve the question,..
Originally posted by 451Mopar
I'm not sure if it makes a difference, but my truck is a 2005 Cummins 610, not a 600, and the engine had the AFE Stage 2 intake and Proguard 7 air filter on it for all runs. Also, the Juice Attitude was installed, but on Level "0" which they claim is the "stock" calibration.
Stock setting (Level "0"): 300.4 HP 576.9 ft/lbs
Level 1 Setting: 353.9 HP 654.9 ft/lbs -- Gain of + 53.5 HP 78.0 ft/lbs
Level 2 not tested (limited runs.)
Level 3 Setting: 398.0 HP 755.1 ft/lbs -- Gain of + 97.6 HP 178.2 ft/lbs
Level 4 Setting: 419.7 HP 798.0 ft/lbs -- Gain of +119.3 HP 221.1 ft/lbs
Level 5 Setting: 439.4 HP 831.1 ft/lbs -- Gain of +139.0 HP 254.2 ft/lbs
As for the dyno numbers, they are what was displayed on the dyno sheet the operator gave me, and that was SAE corrected Rear Wheel HP/TQ, not the "true" measured HP/TQ for that altitude/humidity/temperature. I believe the correction factor on my Dyno sheet was 1.07, so take it for what it is - I'm not lying about it.
I din't think posting the dyno numbers would create such a large discussion. I just wanted the readers to know that the products actually worked as advertised, and what results you may get with a simular setup.
BTW, although the dyno numbers look impressive, my 1986 Ram W150 with a built 360 is still quicker in the 1/4 mile. I think the main reason the 2005 Cummins truck is slow is the stock transmission has way too much slipage/loose converter. I hate waiting for the transmission to shift when the engine is at the governor speed.
I'm not sure if it makes a difference, but my truck is a 2005 Cummins 610, not a 600, and the engine had the AFE Stage 2 intake and Proguard 7 air filter on it for all runs. Also, the Juice Attitude was installed, but on Level "0" which they claim is the "stock" calibration.
Stock setting (Level "0"): 300.4 HP 576.9 ft/lbs
Level 1 Setting: 353.9 HP 654.9 ft/lbs -- Gain of + 53.5 HP 78.0 ft/lbs
Level 2 not tested (limited runs.)
Level 3 Setting: 398.0 HP 755.1 ft/lbs -- Gain of + 97.6 HP 178.2 ft/lbs
Level 4 Setting: 419.7 HP 798.0 ft/lbs -- Gain of +119.3 HP 221.1 ft/lbs
Level 5 Setting: 439.4 HP 831.1 ft/lbs -- Gain of +139.0 HP 254.2 ft/lbs
As for the dyno numbers, they are what was displayed on the dyno sheet the operator gave me, and that was SAE corrected Rear Wheel HP/TQ, not the "true" measured HP/TQ for that altitude/humidity/temperature. I believe the correction factor on my Dyno sheet was 1.07, so take it for what it is - I'm not lying about it.
I din't think posting the dyno numbers would create such a large discussion. I just wanted the readers to know that the products actually worked as advertised, and what results you may get with a simular setup.
BTW, although the dyno numbers look impressive, my 1986 Ram W150 with a built 360 is still quicker in the 1/4 mile. I think the main reason the 2005 Cummins truck is slow is the stock transmission has way too much slipage/loose converter. I hate waiting for the transmission to shift when the engine is at the governor speed.
If you have no boost fooling, totally stock electronics, you generally do not see the gains from intake/exhaust mods as claimed by the manufacturers, but in fact most will show a slight loss in HP (usually no more than 5hp overall). Fool boost on that same truck, no additional fuel, and you will see the numbers come up slightly.
You guys should check with Edge and see is the Juice/Attitude does boost fooling in the "Off" position. If it does, that will account for the higher baseline when set to "0". We have seen time and time again that a little boost fooling, no additional fuel, is all it takes to see the advertised HP increases from intake and exhaust mods. Just a thought.
You guys should check with Edge and see is the Juice/Attitude does boost fooling in the "Off" position. If it does, that will account for the higher baseline when set to "0". We have seen time and time again that a little boost fooling, no additional fuel, is all it takes to see the advertised HP increases from intake and exhaust mods. Just a thought.
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