Ok guys, so i am tired of replacing ball joints. I would love to just go ahead with Carli's but cant help but notice the cheaper price at Dyna Trac so here goes the questions
1. Anybody have experience either of them now? If so what are your thoughts
2. Any other out there making them now?
3. Where have you purchased your and what did you pay

 

Try over in Engine and Drivetrain... here to start
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...s-t260682.html

 

Just search all of 3rd gen. Several Dynatrac balljoint threads will pop in various sub forums. There is already lots of reading on this. But there isn't really anyone saying they are wearing out. Partly because they really haven't been sold to the masses long enough to log in enough miles to make an informed opinion. But that is changing...

 

Well guys it looks like im going to dyna as carli is out for a couple months

 

The ones i use and install are like 85 bucks per side and i have one customer with over 150k on them so far.. He drives for a living..

 

The 4x4 guy by me swears by the moog ones. They have a lifetime warranty and he says that they hold up great. He uses them in his mud truck and his daily driver and says they are the best. Biggest thing I guess with any balljoint is that they are properly greased when installed and that there is no binding after installation. An improperly installed balljoint along with a poorly aligned and cambered front end will result in very premature balljoint failure.

No first hand experience but this is what the 4x4 guy told me and a buddy of mine who had his balljoints replaced by a shop (mopar factory ones) and they lasted 8K miles and he had this 4x4 guy replace them again and all has been perfect for 10k so far. The 4x4 guy said that the shop that did them originally did not properly grease them and also the alignment and camber were both not right.

-Jeremy

 

Do not get Moog joints!

Do a search on this subject and decide for yourself. I took a set apart and posted pictures of them here. The lower ball is not a machined part and is not round. Consequently, they bind and gall which makes the truck steer very poorly. The upper joint is not a ball joint at all, but a pin in a bushing.

I put in a set of them and then had to go back and change them again. Be careful!

 

^ You need to be talking to people that direct have experience with 3rd gen Dodge Ram 4x4's. The AAM 9.25 front has a different balljoint arrangement than the norm. In this case, how a Moog balljoint performs on a different axle is not relevant. We all know Moog has a reputation for making decent quality balljoints....until you get to the 9.25 application. If you do some searching, you will find many threads where Moogs either have a problem very quickly and wear very prematurely or have problems right out of the box. This has all been well documented on several forums now. The 9.25 lower balljoint carries ALL of the weight. The upper does nothing other than align the top portion of the knuckle. The upper, in essence, is merely a glorified king pin and in fact, not a balljoint at all. This arrangement is NOT typical amongst ball Dana front axles where the upper and lower are both weight carrying. The lower carrying all of the weight is a problem. The joint is really too small to last a long time with the amount of front axle weight our trucks have. As well, most of the 9.25 balljoint failures have nothing to do with inadequate lubrication. Comparing other axles and their balljoint performance is really not very practical or applicable. Many people are not familair with the real problem with the AAM balljoint design.

The only solution the aftermarket has come up with to allow for a more durable, longer lasting balljoint in the 9.25 when used in CTD Dodges is to make the joints out of superior high strength alloy steels (no wearable plastic cups/bushings like what a Moog has) that have a much more precise fit and higher preload. Carli and Dynatrac have both gone this route with their balljoint designs and it seems to be working well. No idea what XRF is using in their 9.25 ball joints but it seems to be working OK as well.

 

Ha! Raspy beat me by 1 minute! lol

 

When ANYONE mentions Moog joints, I'm all over it! Oh, Were we racing?

At least we both gave the same message

 

By 60k I plan on replacing my ball joints... I dont know if I want to pony up 800 for carli tho they seem to be the best... I'm not to sure... I take my truck off roading time to time.

I was looking at xrf ball joints and Dyna Trac and another that escapes me right now...

 

Good post here. I am out of the auto repair industry now, but if not, I would be giving XRF a try on some 3rd gen trucks. There seems to have been some good reviews on them. I am guessing they are at the top of the heap as far as jobber ball joints go; if you want to spend for custom or specialty joints, Dynatrac or Carli both seem great.

 

I bought the xrf's recently. Not installed yet; but, it will still take a while to give a longevity report.

"I bought them and they are great!" doesn't quite cut it now, does it?

 

In all likelyhood, I will be grabbing XRF's as well. I wish there was a little more long term feedback about them. Overall, I have heard very little negative save for some installation issues.

I'm on the fence about the Prosteers but I just can't stomach the Dynatrac pricing and Carli's pricing is in la-la land - not even a consideration for me.

When push comes to shove, I'll probably cave and go with the XRF's unless somebody can provide some tangible evidence that will talk me out of them.

 

have alittle over 40,000 miles on the xrf's. not really enough miles to give a longevity report but they are so far holding up fine.