Does anyone know what I should be paying for the Cooper M&S's in load range E in size 265 70 17?

 

After buying Toyo Open Country AT's in 265/75/16, I cannot recommend them to anyone. They are AWFUL in the snow/ice, and almost as bad in the rain. It's sad wanting to replace tires with 9/32" of tread remaining....

I'll probably go back to the BFG AT's, but Toyo won't be getting any more of my business.

 

Should of got the MT'S

 

I have a 285/70/17 Nokian Vativa they are Ice rated and one great tire, My dad has them as well on his dually service truck and on his personal 07 ram as well, they are an awsome tire.

 

i am running the cooper stt's on my pickup and i am running the cooper ST's on my dumptruck...i love them both!!!! but i have also used the Pro Comp Extreme A/T and they worked well also... just my .02

 

Well, I guess they couldn't suck as bad as the AT's in the snow and ice...or could they? The Toyo AT's are only marginally better than the bald Procomp AT's that were on the truck, and the Procomps were 10X better when new. Too bad Procomp doesn't do Load Range E in 285/75/16....

 

Part of the problem is any tire that is worth its salt in the snow and ice (no pun intended) will not last long in the summer. Any tire that wears like iron on the road will be poor on ice and usually marginal in snow due to hard rubber compounds used. Anything that is a compromise between the two will be exactly that... a compromise. Another thing, the really good tires on ice usually do good in shallow snow, not deep snow as you mention as they are not aggressive enough to dig down. Another compromise. Also, dedicated ice/snow tires will at best get you 20k miles running them in the summer.

The best solution is really having an extra set of tires and rims for the winter. Having said all that, a really good choice (as a compromise for all) would be Interco's Trxus MT in 33" and 35" sizes... both are Load range E, 10 ply tires.

 

I'm now on my 3rd set of tires I quickly pulled the factory Michs and replaced them with BFGs (AT/KO). I ran these for close to 40,000 miles. I also changed to size 285. You've seen many treads on these tires, and overall I was pleased with them. I think they were pretty good in the snow until the last 5000 miles, then I could really tell the last winter I had them that they had to go.

I replaced them with the Toyo ATs and I ran these to over 40,000 miles. Overall, these were a step down from the BFGs, although it did get me back into an E rated tire. They were not as good off road in any kind of mud situation, and they were mediocre in the snow compared to the BFG. They weren't bad, but nothing good enough to recommend for anything close to an Off road or snow tire.

Ok, I just put on the Goodyear Silent Armor size 285. It is back to a D rating with a good load limit. They do make an E rated tire but you need to go to 18 inch wheel. I put these on in October right before our winter snow storms. So far these have been the best All Season tire I've had. I was driving up steep hills that other 4 wheel drive rigs had trouble with and I did it in 2 wheel drive. Really, I didn't switch to 4 wheel drive unless I had to. Going down hill they come to a quick stop without sliding when I slam the brakes. I only have a few thousand miles on them so far. But if you are looking for an all season tire (not a dedicated snow tire), then look no further. These are the ones to get.

 

I have the Cooper M+S studded and they are awesome. I live in Eagle River AK and can testify to the fact they take any concern out of winter driving. They really grip the road well.

 

I ran a set of Bridgestone Dueler Revos on my '05 F250 that had 17" wheels. They worked great, never had trouble in the snow, even pushing it with the front bumper. The only problem is that they are expensive.

 

My toya mt's are pretty good in the snow but ice is another story. I have had my back end break loose a couple times when the truck downshifts, going up hill. Pretty scary being in a truck full of screamin' kids and a screamin wife as your truck gets sideways on black ice. I think I could have handled it better if it weren't for the SCREAMIN!