DPF Not under emissions warranty
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Yes, and when they do it that way they come up with some screwy readings. I never idle my truck in the morning becuase it stays in a heated garage. And I never leave it running even just to go in and pay for fuel. My point is, my time spent idling in Park is virtually nothing. Yet, every time I go in to the dealer I get a nasty little note on the work order saying my idle/lightload time is 21% which is excessive.
I've argued with the dealer over this and they claim any time your ECM is reflashed it resets this counter to zero. They are also saying that it counts idle time AND light duty operation the same. So if you're driving around town trying to drive gently to get your lousy MPG numbers up (which I do), you're getting penalized for it by the ECM.
If I ever have a DPF or injector problem and they try to not warranty it becuase of excessive idle or light duty time, the fight is going to be on big time!
I've argued with the dealer over this and they claim any time your ECM is reflashed it resets this counter to zero. They are also saying that it counts idle time AND light duty operation the same. So if you're driving around town trying to drive gently to get your lousy MPG numbers up (which I do), you're getting penalized for it by the ECM.
If I ever have a DPF or injector problem and they try to not warranty it becuase of excessive idle or light duty time, the fight is going to be on big time!
What you are saying here may be shocking for some on this forum, that it's possible, with the level of computer intelligence these new veichles are equipped with, that idleing percentages and light-load operation can be monitored...sound rather "big brotherish" dosen't it? Well it's true, they (whoever they are) can tell these and other details. Do some digging on OBD III emissions control, and you'll find that there are possiblites (if it passes into law) that "they" could actually remotely shut down a veichle that has consisitantly been misfiring that a consumer has not had repaired. E-mails would be sent to the owner, and after a certain length of time, down it goes.
I guess I just don't like all this big brother influence - do you?
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I have had some schooling on these engines as they have been in some of our tractors for a few years now. Identical engine except the block on the tractors is structural, the pickups are not. In the bosch controller software there is a section that you can go into to see what that unit has ever done. It gives you a group of rmp ranges, then averages them out to tell you how much time that engine has spent at each rpm range. So there is a direct way that the dealer can see how much time the truck is spending at each rpm group, and how heavy the engine is loaded at each rpm, fuel usage, and a whole bunch of other info right there. Not an exact apples to apples comparison, but its the same engine with the same people making the software. With proper training, you would be amazed at just how much they can learn about how you use or abuse your truck...
PS I would have sure liked to see them use the same internal egr as the tractors rather than the external on your trucks. The internal is just built into the cam grind, does the same functions as the external, with no more parts than the 5.9
What do you guys think?
PS I would have sure liked to see them use the same internal egr as the tractors rather than the external on your trucks. The internal is just built into the cam grind, does the same functions as the external, with no more parts than the 5.9
What do you guys think?
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